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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In my discipline we only pay if we want the article to be open access. Are there journals that charge $1000 and still put articles behind a paywall?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As far as I know, the big ones charge very high processing fees

[–] FinalRemix 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Processing fees"

Ensuring the Docx file shows up right in PDF format.

[–] mkwt 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well except a lot of the time it's LaTeX, and the journal already makes the authors check their tex files work with the journal's article class.

[–] FinalRemix 4 points 1 year ago

Depends entirely on the field. None of the (psych/behavior) journals I'm familiar with ask for things besides DOCX.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I also don’t know how they come up with that BS

[–] NightAuthor 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think in computer science it’s normal to have to attend a conference to present your paper if it’s accepted. And they charge a higher fee to presenters than to regular attendees.

[–] Astroturfed 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the people providing the content that everyone shows up for get charged more, man that's a weird business model. Like running a cable network that charges channels to be on it.

[–] NightAuthor 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it all comes around to how the funds are distributed.

Researcher gets grants from the federal government to enable their work. They do the work, write the paper, get it accepted to a conference. They're required to attend and present to get it published. So they have an excuse to buy flights, hotels, expense food all on government dime. And the conference is put on, in part, by other researchers, who aren't going to use their own funds to put on the event. So they charge people to attend, and those who want to get published have the largest incentive to attend, so they can be charged the most.

I only did 2 years of graduate research and attended a handful of conferences (unpublished unfortunately)... I could have this wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is the way, at least in the computer science field.

[–] _bac 14 points 1 year ago
[–] Zeth0s 10 points 1 year ago

High impact factor journal are among those that ask fees depending on number of pages and figures. Or at least they used to when I used to do academic research

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It’s $3000 for Association of Horticultural Scientists

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Can confirm, I cannot even imagine paying for papers. Like why do you endure such an issue?

..Predatory journals?