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A Russian convicted murderer who was sentenced to 11 years in prison after he killed his girlfriend and put her body through a meat grinder has been pardoned after fighting against Ukraine, his mother said.

The mother of Dmitry Zelensky told the Russian media news outlet 59.RU that her son was pardoned after serving less than half of his sentence.

Zelensky, a veteran of the Second Chechen War, confessed to the 2018 murder of his 27-year-old girlfriend, Tatiana Melekhina, in 2019, 59.RU reported.

He admitted to strangling her to death after a quarrel, before disposing of her body in a horrific way to try to cover up his tracks, the media outlet said.

According to 59.RU, Zelensky told investigators during an interrogation that he dismembered her body, processed it in a meat grinder, collected the bones in three bags, and threw them into the river.

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[–] okamiueru 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Morally? Shouldn't be a hard question to answer.

[–] FlyingSquid 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think once you've ground up your girlfriend in a meat grinder, the moral side of the question becomes rather murky.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using ethically backwards logic, this can earn some cred in prison, while it doesn't matter on a frontline. Unless you are a torture operator or whatever.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know, I bet Wagner would welcome someone with that sort of skill.

[–] okamiueru 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If we are discussing morality and philosophy, I would argue that the question is still not "murky". I reject your premise that a one cannot make arguments as to the morality of future actions, for a person who has committed immoral acts. If we can accept the premise that Russia's war in Ukraine is that of an aggressor state, participating in it as combatant, is immoral. Going to jail for refusing to participate in it, is not immoral. Whether or not that person has previously ground up people, is not relevant.

That doesn't mean the decision is an easy one to make. Or, it's much less easy than it is for me to armchair my words around. But I don't think morality is hard to pin down here.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, again, this guy ground up his girlfriend. I don't think he has a good grasp of morality.

[–] okamiueru 0 points 1 year ago

But... We still do, right? Also, what do you mean "again"? Anyway, I'm sure it's fine and it all makes sense. Have a good one