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Okay so you don't want all violent criminals to go to jail for long periods..... just this one? How do you tell a bad guy, from a real bad guy.....?
I do want violent criminals to go to jail for a long time.
Can you point out where I stated otherwise?
The fact that they rape and assault people usually helps in identifying them.
And a man who gets in a drunken bar fight is not being violent or doing a crime?
When I asked if a drunk bar fight should land you in a jail cell forever, You said no.
So we established that it's not the assault, as a bar fight involves criminally assaulting someone..... so your argument hinges on rape alone?
So it is of your opinion that any woman who accuses a man of ignoring consent he should be jailed indefinitely?
I think there's an ever so slight difference between punching someone in a bar fight, and murdering someone in cold blood.
Yep, because you shouldn't go to jail forever.
Long time != forever.
Nope, it also hinges on violent assault too. We didn't establish anything, you misread my comment and decided to go off of your own wrong interpretation.
Has the man been convicted of violent rape? Yes? Then yes!
But weren't we talking about violent criminals? I think your shifting your goal post there....
So you're against putting people in prison forever, but you also want people locked away for an indiscriminately long time? Sounds like you don't know what you want....
But a bar fight is a violent assault. You can't have it both ways, you're talking about laws, not vibes.
Ahh, so it has to be violent rape? But, it can't just be violence, or just rape? You're just being pedantic now.
Yep, but there's a difference in the level of violence between punch somebody and murdering somebody. You’re just being pedantic now.
Not really. I want people who are violent to not have the chance to hurt innocent people again.
I can have it both way, by having different punishments for someone who punched somebody and for someone who stabbed somebody to death in cold blood. I see this is a difficult concept to you.
Nope, it can be rape, violent rape, or violence.
I'm talking about laws, not vibes.
Ahh, so you admit your statement was incorrect. Great.
So, now your claim is that violent murderers should be put in prison for long periods...... which is redundant.
By putting them in prison until you personally decide they aren't violent anymore?
I fail to see how that's any different to what were currently doing?
Ahh, so we're walking back our claim now.....how many times have you had to do that now?
Lol and your version of the law is?
Never said otherwise. Given how you're making up every argument instead of actually reading mine, you really don't need me here, you can just continue arguing with yourself. Have fun!
This has always been my claim.
Nope, until/if they're actually not violent anymore.
Well, we're letting them out way too early. Like this case proves.
Exactly 0 times. It's just you can't read and understand simple arguments, so you think they're changing.
Sylvester Stallone in the 1995 movie 'Judge Dredd'.
Lol, you have already admitted to writing knowingly false statements. You've changed your claim like 4-5 times by now.
Directly conflicts with "Never said otherwise.".
So you have a violence predicting precognition? You do know having a clean record while serving is already part of the parole process, right?
You're utilizing a logical fallacy so fucking old the Romans had a name for it "post hoc ergo propter hoc".
How do you determine when they get out, by how violent they are? How do you tell how violent they are?
"Ahh, so you admit your statement was incorrect." "Never said otherwise."
You do know judge dredd was satirical right?
Rape is always violence.
I believe that to be true, but the person I was talking to predicated it differently. I was trying to see if he was preconditioning his claim in a way that would excuse behavior often seen as acceptable by conservative values.