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I'm never putting one of these in my home.

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[–] orclev 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a middle ground as well. I refuse to put Alexa or OK Google or whatever on any of my stuff, but I run home-assistant with zigbee smart devices. My entire setup runs completely cut off from the internet. I could in theory even air gap it, although that's a little overkill. It's a "smart" house, but one I'm 100% in control of.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is that self hosted? I'd just about fuck with a FOSS self hosted smart home setup, but even then I could barely be arsed

[–] AbidanYre 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. You can host it on a pi if you want

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's badass. I've got one lying around actually.

[–] orclev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be careful running it in a Pi because it's a little heavy for that depending on how you configure it. A Pi model 4 is probably OK, but you wouldn't want to run it on a model 3 or something even older, and you're going to want to use one with at least 4GB of RAM.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah shit, the raspberry I've got is old as hell. Thanks for the heads up.

[–] orclev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will probably run even in a Pi Model 1, it's just going to be a bit slow to interact with, and you're not going to be able to do anything more complicated like enable the voice support (which you probably don't want anyway, because I think it's dependent on internet access for that, and then we're back to the same problem as Alexa, although I don't use it myself so I can't say for sure).

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saving the idea for a spare weekend. Cheers!

[–] Cihta 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll get a lot of hate for this but when you say pi you mean pi4. I kept seeing this HA on lemmy and tried it on a pi2. I don't know if it worked or not, it's a very bloated piece of software. After an hour of waiting I installed docker and the HA instance on my main server (which is ancient) in under a minute.

It's cool and all but my feit dimmers require some pcb work and flashing to be compatible so verify what devices you have before you hop in.

I used to have an automated building running on a bare 386 and a floppy drive. Hate on me all you want but sending simple commands like turn device on shouldn't require a giant software package but otherwise HA is neat, just a lot of overhead i can't exactly justify.

Worth trying out though.

I think reflow stole a lot of their code.

[–] AbidanYre 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No hate from me.

Just about every project I've started with a pi has ended up working out a lot better as a vm on an x86 host. But lots of people seem to love them.

[–] Cihta 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair It has its uses i suppose. I've had one running pihole since the original pi came out. Used PI2s in the past for OSMC and, even better, ambilight.

I think now a cheap android TV box you can flash is probably better for a simple less than 5watt device.

Besides the HA test I've been trying to use one to be an openvpn TAP interface but it's been a fight and i think you just convinced me to do it in another docker instance on the server and save myself some headaches.

[–] AbidanYre 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PiVPN was actually one of the things I thought the HW handled pretty well. Other than how much it ends up getting throttled by the 100Mbps link.

[–] Cihta 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems like it would but the pivpn install script always hangs on me whether i I select openvpn or wireguard. Based on some reading I was lead to believe I needed to just use raw openvpn for a TAP interface. I've tried a few times but I always end up with CA issues or just flat out failure to connect.

It should be pretty simple, I'm just trying to bridge my network to a single remote device connected via cellular gateway. Maybe I'm just out of my depth. I've done it before with an old NAS years ago but I've tried a few step by step guides and no dice.

If you have any tips that'd be great!

[–] AbidanYre 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wish I could help.

I used it a few years ago for a simple wireguard link but eventually moved the vpn into my opnsense instance

[–] orclev 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, I run mine on an ODroid XU4, but you can run it on just about anything including a docker container on a generic Linux install.

[–] 0110010001100010 3 points 1 year ago

I'm using z-wave stuff but similar setup. Home Assistant does reach out to the cloud for some things like weather forecast and Google calendar but otherwise it will operate 100% without internet if needed. I also have cameras that while they aren't air-gappend they are blocked from Internet access and can only talk to the NVR.