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[–] die444die 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Umm, people can definitely change how others view them. And if person A refuses to accept person B for who they are, that doesn’t define person B. It defines person A as an asshole.

[–] bighi 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And if person A refuses to accept person B for who they are, that doesn’t define person B. It defines person A as an asshole.

Agree. And that sentence is not only valid for gender, it's for any other cultural label (like genders are).

If I say that I'm a gamer, or a fan of star wars, or whatever, and you're spending your energy trying to convince the world I'm not what I said... it says much more about you than about me.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that sentence is not only valid for gender, it's for anything other cultural label (like genders are).

How about race? Can white people elect to be Black?

[–] Tenthrow 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a bad faith argument, and at best a whataboutism. They aren't remotely related.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you aware of a good rebuttal to the comment you replied to? It tends to trip me up as even through it's often presented in bad faith, our concept of race is mostly cultural too isn't it? It feels like they're different somehow, but I can't articulate the reason why and so it's like I've stumbled into a "gotcha".

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY 2 points 1 year ago

gender is a social construct which can change depending on social expectations or the mental feeling of the individual, while race is a biological construct that can't be changed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Using the original comment’s delineation as a guide: Nationality and ethnicity are cultural; i.e., akin to gender. Race is phenotypic; i.e., akin to sex. So, no.