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[–] candybrie 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Which is why it's so crazy that people in America try the enlightened centrist thing. Our far left is center in many other countries.

[–] Cryophilia 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can we stop with the "many other countries" thing and just say Western Europe? We all know you're not referring to India.

[–] Baines 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you mean excluded literal autocratic dictatorships?

that seems implied

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For that matter, even "Western Europe" covers a lot. This argument tends to rest on the overall better social safety net policies of those countries. When it comes to gay marriage, trans rights, abortion, or even racism, many of those western European countries don't survive the comparison looking quite so rosy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, so a reasonable centrist comes off as a little more left than right - but the failure of the Republican party to retain it's moral center doesn't make the left correct or sane in its thinking.

The key thing is getting out of party mentalities, and getting into well-reasoned positions by identifying and facing your own (personal) fears.

Emotions scale up into collective action - you get a bunch of angry, hateful republicans who haven't dealt with their losses of power and moral authority well, and the whole organization becomes angry and hateful.

You get a bunch of idealistic, unrealistic thinkers who can't help but see themselves as victims, yet can't help but ride the Hate Train when anyone does something that dares to look like it's something bad, or foes against current virtue signaling trends? ..well, that organization also becomes avoidant, irrational, and hateful in its own way. It's just, with all the avoidance, it doesn't have to deny the hate - the people involved genuinely believe they're "the his guys".

Deal primarily with your oen issues, and utilize whatever power you personally have for the best good you can see. That makes me centrist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Your "far left" are centre-right conservatives by civilized standards.