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Not OP but I think it's fair to say Chairman Mao counts, Stalinist Russia counts, and no, I don't think they're particularly relevant to the modern conversation, I just think it's important to recognize that extremist thinking isn't sustainable regardless of its political bent.
There are strengths and weaknesses to any extremist view, and if a concerted effort can be mustered to try and take the good and leave the bad, it doesn't really matter if one side is 90% evil and the other side of 90% good, if there is no capacity for self reflection and humility, then both sides will continue to suck to the extent that they suck and everyone will keep pointing fingers. So, railing against centrists as somehow weak and spineless is just outing oneself as unable or unwilling to evolve.
Happy to have that argument torn apart, I just can't stand the current cuntscape of self-assured asshats who show up to any conversation with thirteen talking points about why they're the second coming of truth and justice and the other side is a bunch of NAZIS!!1!
China and the USSR were authoritarian state capitalist - this isn't compatible with leftist values of worker enfranchisement and equity.
I don't care that they call themselves communist any more than the DPRK calls itself democratic - they're lying, and you'd have to be a fool to trust either.
Self-reflection is necessary to have good political prescriptions, but calling Nazis scumbags or centrists weak doesn't stop that Self-reflection in any meaningful way - you'd be a fool to seriously reflect on a statement from any idiot with a bad ideology and bad take.
Fair points
And good on you for living your stated values of introspection - I've got a hell of a lot of respect for that when it's the easiest thing in the world to dig in your heels when some interntet dipshit like me disagrees with you.