this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2023
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I keep running into comments where users are arguing for avoiding Lemmy, claiming that Lemmy supports authoritarian governments, supports the CCP, sides with Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, denies genocides committed by nominal communist governments, and other similar political claims. I know there are communist instances and whatnot, but I'm well aware that identifying as a communist doesn't mean that someone wants a dictatorial government or denies genocides.

  • Can we figure this out and have any supporting evidence either way to end the rumors?
  • Is there any evidence that Lemmy is advocating against democracy, pro dictatorships, denying and/or advocating for genocides?
  • Is there evidence that using Lemmy supports genocidal aspiring dictators and their accomplices?
  • Even if there is one instance that advocates for atrocities, genocides, dictatorships, and clearly false revisions of history, what does that have to do with the Lemmy as a system? Can't those instances just be defederated?

To be 100% clear, I am not a communist, aspiring dictator, or support genocides. I also do not believe that communism = dictatorships and the end of human rights. I believe in democracy, equitable distribution or power, individual human rights and freedoms. If I had to define a personal political identity, I would mostly fall under the term anarchist and do not advocate for violence against innocent people despite their political viewpoints (except Nazis because they're not innocent. Fuck Nazis).

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Fuck nazis indeed. If Lemmy really is this nefarious entity these individuals claim it to be, the user base would just migrate again.

Personally Communists dont bother me much, and tankies are manageable. If this platform takes a shit we'll all head to another one.

Enjoy the ride it's been pretty chill so far.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Communists are tolerable to me but red-brown Russia apologists are not.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

As a communist, you guys are tolerable to me too, I think we'll get along.

Fuck Nazis and tankies btw. I don't call myself communist to turn around and support imperialists on the next breath.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Agreed, fuck red fascism.

[–] magiccupcake 13 points 2 years ago

There's no need to migrate really, the devs of lemmy don't control other instances, and if they mess up the software too bad, it could get forked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

They don't need to migrate, people can just defederate the dev-run instance and fork the project.

I think denying a genocide that is happening is immoral. If this instance gets cut off because of that it's a good thing. I'll need to register with some other instance.