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(Posting to lemmy.world seems to be disabled so I'm posting this here instead.)

This inconsistency has been bothering me, so I went poking around in their support community, and the best I could find was a statement saying they had reached out to the admins of both. Apparently they expected @[email protected] to reply to something that didn't seem like a question as indicated by his response in Beehaw Support. As such, they claim to have no roadmap to eventually refederate with lemmy.world.

I added a reply from another instance, but I'm guessing I won't receive a reponse so if anyone knows, I would like to better understand the issue. It's quite annoying feeling like I'm missing out, especially when I'm seeing inflammatory overly generalized statements from kbin.social users about how lemmy.world deserved to be defederated over in this post on lemmy.ml.

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[–] michikade 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I read that there were some people with accounts at lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works that went into their communities and were rude, inflammatory, and not following their rules so I think it’s more of a ‘punishing the many for the actions of the few’ situation. Maybe they were getting overrun, maybe there were a ton of rule breakers, or maybe they just didn’t want to deal with the huge surge of users. Hard to say.

I haven’t been in their communities so I don’t know if maybe they have much more strict rules that people weren’t following or what. Or maybe people were bringing a vibe they weren’t fond of - they may have that insular community feel and maybe too many people moved into their neighborhood that threw off their block parties, I don’t know. I personally don’t feel the loss because I’m not in their communities but I do feel kinda sad that someone federated with both might see people commenting the exact same thing but they can’t see each other so they can’t just interact with each other.

[–] Mac 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have strict rules.
...Not to say they're unreasonable rules.

[–] michikade 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, they can definitely have their rules and it’s on everyone who steps over there to follow them for sure. They can run their instance and communities however they want, that’s the beauty of this whole system. It’s just unfortunate that they blocked a couple general population instances without specifically contrary rules and beliefs because a couple people were being jerks (if that’s what’s been happening).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I took one look at the block list that beehaw has, and it immediately became clear they just block pretty much everything.

That's the way a lot of the legacy lemmyverse is. They're an enforced echo chamber. Unless you want to be the exact same echo chamber, you're not allowed.

I didn't even know I was on their block list until I checked their block list. I was subscribe to a bunch of their communities and participating through lotide, but instead of blocking the subdomain they blocked a magazine website with no federation features.

[–] s38b35M5 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

maybe there were a ton of rule breakers

Look at the modlog https://beehaw.org/modlog and you'll see it was five users, six or seven actions. The more I try to understand, the less sense this makes to me...