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(Posting to lemmy.world seems to be disabled so I'm posting this here instead.)

This inconsistency has been bothering me, so I went poking around in their support community, and the best I could find was a statement saying they had reached out to the admins of both. Apparently they expected @[email protected] to reply to something that didn't seem like a question as indicated by his response in Beehaw Support. As such, they claim to have no roadmap to eventually refederate with lemmy.world.

I added a reply from another instance, but I'm guessing I won't receive a reponse so if anyone knows, I would like to better understand the issue. It's quite annoying feeling like I'm missing out, especially when I'm seeing inflammatory overly generalized statements from kbin.social users about how lemmy.world deserved to be defederated over in this post on lemmy.ml.

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[–] Jessica 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want to know why only some of the large communities were hit. My best guess so far from memory is lemmy.ml was struggling to stay online and federated during that time, and kbin.social had their Cloudflare DDOS protection enabled breaking federation so maybe they were not an immediate concern on the day the announcement was made. I've no clue why they have not since defederated with lemmy.ml and kbin.social since both are currently federating with everyone.

As far as refederating with Beehaw.org goes, lemmy.world is only defederated with one unrelated instance so we never actually stopped federating with them. It's just a one way street stuck in time since we get no new content.

[–] s38b35M5 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@[email protected] I noticed your comment in one of the threads linked and I share your sentiment.

Furthermore, if I look over at beehaw's modlog, I see only five (5) moderator actions against lemmy.world users and one community removal.

Did they really defederate because they had five users to moderate? Does anyone see something I'm missing in the log?

Edit: woke up a bit more and realized you are OP so simplified my comment

[–] Jessica 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is some damning evidence that they really did defederate over effectively nothing. I don't quite understand how the modlog works or how to filter it, so I'm glad you were able to research that and confirm because I was curious if there were a lot of records in there leading up to the defederation.

[–] s38b35M5 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBH, as I haven't spun up my own instance to see what admins can do, I can't say for sure if what I see is the whole record.

That said, the modlog is described in the docs as being there to provide transparency, so at face value, it seems that five people may have been all it took.

I also haven't looked closely into what "purged a user" means vs the other more transparent actions on the modlog, so I have to say, "take all these comments with a grain of salt." I'm still learning about lemmy as a platform.

[–] ElectroVagrant 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I may be mistaken, but from what I gather the modlog is...Kind of a mess. It appears to aggregate the admin/mod actions of admins & mods across instances & communities, and doesn't allow for filtering to the specific instance or community.

You can see this if you come across someone that's been banned in a different instance but made a new account in another with the same name by filtering the modlog by username (albeit that can be finicky, like a lot of things atm).

[–] s38b35M5 3 points 1 year ago

That makes sense that it's not necessarily what it first seems.