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Contrary to what they say on Faux News, caravanfuls of immigrants aren't let in overnight either. As for undocumented immigrants, the vast majority are Canadians and Europeans overstaying their visas and refugees who aren't rich enough to complete the legal process, neither of which will suddenly buy a shitload real estate.
Classic victim blaming and othering. Native born and naturalised citizens lose orders of magnitude more potential wages to wage theft than to exploited immigrants "flooding" anything. Another fallacious talking point, I'm afraid.
Oh good, you DIDN'T mean to victim blame, you just did it accidentally. Let's see if you can stay away from the right wing talking points for the rest of your comment, then!
Guess it was too much to hope for..
You don't come off as racist, you just come off as someone who, in spite of meaning well and knowing who's actually to blame, has fallen for some of the lies the billionaires and their pr machines use to make the discrimination more palatable to non-racist people.
Including the dissemination of gaslighting and other insidious lies to fool even their enemies to help their cause, as you've just demonstrated yourself.
Wasn't my intention. What I meant to say is that, in spite of not blaming the immigrants themselves, you're blaming things on immigration that simply are not caused by immigration.
That's the crux of it: they can't. Immigration is a net benefit to the economy as a whole, ESPECIALLY the working class.
No. They made it up. Immigration doesn't hurt you.
True, but you're still missing my point: even when not blaming the immigrants themselves, you're helping the right wing when you repeat their bogus talking points. No matter how different your intentions and attitude towards immigrants are.
And also made up causal relationships, having so much success doing so that even seemingly good people like yourself repeat their lies.
I'm getting tired of repeating the simple fact that it already isn't. Stop repeating the propaganda of those we're fighting against, please.
First of all: no. That's simply not true. Second of all, the US has low immigration per capita compared to most countries.
No, what I'm doing is disabusing you of false notions, that you haven't provided any proof of yourself.
Study showing that immigration depressing wages is close to zero at first and actually INCREASES productivity and wages in the long run.
As for property prices, compare this to the fact that net immigration is declining. .
I believe in fact-based arguments, not blindly repeating commonly believed lies and complaining about being shamed when others point it out.