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Appears to be Hetzner for now, wouldn't be surprised if all VPS get affected eventually.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the last straw. I already was very shakey with all the restrictions that were piling up, but this is just one thing too much. Cancelling my subscription and installing jellyfin.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep same here, I've been curious about trying Jellyfin for a long time now so this just gives me all the more reason

[–] kokesh 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've switched few years ago and didn't look back .

[–] droans 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I installed Jellyfin on my server but the Android TV app is just so awful.

It honestly feels like a webpage from 2005 with all the blocky elements, terrible scrolling, and no way to sort.

If you want to go to, say, Workaholics, you have to scroll through your entire library until you get there. There's no option to go straight to W. And, don't worry, the scrolling is very slow the whole time!

The search seems to work maybe 10% of the time. I've typed in the name of a movie and it wouldn't find it, but it did find episodes of shows that kinda match. I've typed in names of TV shows and it's found nothing. Both times, the movies and shows existed in my library.

If they can make it look and work better, I'd be happy to switch to it fully. All I'd need then is a way to pull the XMLTV file from Plex so I can record, too.

The Plex app for the Shield has a lot of bugs itself, though. I connected my Shield to a smart plug because it froze the system often enough that I needed to automate a way to restart it. Unfortunately I'd rather put up with that than the Jellyfin UI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm never had a problem with Jellyfin on the shield pro or cigar one. On the cigar one Netflix always stops showing video and just the loading screen.

[–] Deftdrummer 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm curious, just checked out their site.

I'm a little alarmed at needing to modify SSL and port forward and all that shit. My experiences haven't been great with port forwarding in the past.

In short jelly fin doesn't seem as easy as you are all making it out to be.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's only if you want to watch it outside your home network, and either way I would recommend not just opening a port to the world like that. I'd say to use Tailscale (which is trivially easy to install) for remote viewing.

[–] Deftdrummer 4 points 1 year ago

I will check into this Trailscale. Thanks!

[–] Molecular0079 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In short jelly fin doesn’t seem as easy as you are all making it out to be.

It does definitely require a bit more work, especially because Plex does things like authentication and network access for you, but that's exactly why all of this drama got kicked up in the first place. Plex doesn't want to get into legal troubles, however unlikely that may be, for providing access to whatever content people are hosting. It isn't true self-hosting.

True self-hosting requires work and a small amount of technical knowledge, but IMHO it's worth it for the freedom, privacy, and control.

[–] Deftdrummer 1 points 1 year ago

Yes you're totally correct, I'll have to do some more reading.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have to port forward for Plex as well.

[–] Deftdrummer 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No I believe upnp took care of that in some form, Plex sets it up.

[–] Molecular0079 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jellyfin also supports UPnP, but you really shouldn't be exposing the raw ports to the public anyways.

Ideally, you'd setup Jellyfin and a reverse proxy like SWAG that handles the SSL stuff for you.

[–] Deftdrummer 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks, I just realized what community I was in lol. Stumbled in here from the everything tab, so now I understand the technical stuff!

I'll stick around here a while you'll have me!

[–] Molecular0079 2 points 1 year ago

Haha, welcome! Always good to have new people come in and potentially start their self-hosting journey. It can be quite fun if you have the time and interest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Welcome! Consider a VPN if you need remote access, unless you plan to share it publicly with a lot of people. It's a bit more work, but safer than directly exposing your PC to the internet.

[–] Deftdrummer 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks! I actually already have a PIA subscription that I use frequently

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In this case, it would be a VPN hosted on your home server/router or a VPS. A commercial VPN wouldn't help you here, although you can use it in combination.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's still port forwarding. It's just automated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A well-configured network that follows security best practices should always have UPnP disabled.

[–] Deftdrummer 1 points 1 year ago

Well, not sure if I have that then.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched to Jellyfin a long time ago and I don't regret it at all. Even for non-techie friends and family the experience has been more pleasant.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. it was just pure lazyness on my part. I had Plex setup and all and didn't want to bother with something new.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I have both side by side syncing with each other. Plex is still better then jellyfin. It's just more polished has more features and isess buggy. Saying that I use jellyfin all the time but not ready to move others over.