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Men are people too, so “can people not be terrible” is still accurate…
Would you do the same for different races or religions?
"Yes, but essentially saying "not all muslims" allows muslims to continue to ignore and exclude themselves from the problem, making them actively a part of the problem."
Of course not, those aren't on the list of approved groups to generalise.
I suppose not all women are as rude as you. Does that ignore and exclude you from the problem?
What are you going on about?
Nobody in this thread has said “not all men”.
The top comment said “can people just not suck”, then OP responded saying “actually, in this case, only men suck”.
But they didn't say that? They said 'men are terrible' is included in the phrase 'people are terrible' because men are people.
Yes, in this case men are absolutely to blame, I am not denying this.
I believe they intended their comment as a general statement not specific to sexual harassment/assault. It felt like a fatalist response, not as an attempt to derail the conversation.
You came in here picking a fight but everyone else is an asshole. Ok there.
If it's not them who caused the problem, why can't they be excluded from the problem? Are you to blame for any other women's problems?
I don't think that would do anything. The problem isn't that they don't know it's wrong, it's that they know they won't face any consequences for their actions.
You might need an extra 1 year course on why it's not "a thing" to be lacking common sense