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    [–] Schal330 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I feel for the teacher, Windows is still the predominant OS that is used by businesses worldwide and it's unlikely to change any time soon. Ensuring the kids have some familiarity with it is important as when a lot of them go into the workplace their employer isn't going to give them a choice of OS to use. A number of schools in my country now provide kids with Windows laptops that can be managed through group policies. I can imagine the teacher feeling frustrated at times as their teaching material will be geared to Windows and may face challenges in being able to grade your kid.

    It's great you have given your kid experience in using Linux and that should set them up really well to working in a Linux based environment. Hopefully one day other OS will be added to teacher's curriculum so that all kids have the opportunity to get hands on experience.

    [–] WarlordSdocy 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    If anything more recently schools have been going the opposite direction. Moving away from Windows towards Chrome Books which is probably even worse from a being prepared for the future stand point.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    I started using Chromebooks in elementary school and my school used them all the way through high school. I can confirm that the majority of kids probably have no idea how to do anything outside of chrome and the google suite of apps since that's where the majority of our digital literacy curriculum focused.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    My country invested a good deal of money into this, a part of which went into providing computers to students and schools.

    There still is a machine installed with this in the school where my kids go but the teacher has (alledegly) no knowledge on it and personally refused to even broach the existence of anything else but Windows. There is no formal curriculum for this class; it's mostly used as a lab for kids to do assignments from other classes while learning to use the internet and an office suite.

    I offered to provide a test machine for the kids to play with and explore, even go to the school and talk about FOSS and Linux (not an expert by any measure) and the mere offer was met with distrust and discomfort.

    And as a former windows fanboy - I loved XP to bits and pieces - learning to use a computer under linux makes things a lot easier when needing to use Windows. The thing does not have a steep learning curve, I'll give them that.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Until something goes wrong in windows, and unlike in a sane system, the logs are filled with gibberish, there's no embedded documentation, and the online help is either turn it off and on again or just reinstall.

    [–] uis 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] uis 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Windows is still the predominant OS that is used by businesses worldwide and it's unlikely to change any time soon. Ensuring the kids have some familiarity with it is important as when a lot of them go into the workplace their employer isn't going to give them a choice of OS to use.

    This is why it's unlikely to change any time soon. Ensuring part. Windows is OS of cheap workforce because it is OS taught in public schools. Ban windows in schools and in 20 years entire country will shift to Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    Kinda depends where you work.

    I've been working full time in software dev and hardware dev since the mid-1990s. Through that whole time I've worked almost exclusively on (in the early days) Sun workstations, AS/400, and HPUX machines. This eventually transitioned to Linux and macOS (once it became Unix based). Over the past 7-8 years, every company I've worked for (primarily in backend software and "big data") has actually heavily restricted Windows within the company. Most have required high level approval to have a Windows machine... you had to have a damn good business reason to run Windows as your primary OS.

    Windows is definitely the leader in generic desktop work, but... there are pockets out there of Linux/macOS-only. And... given the strong shift to browser based everything... Windows has lost its shininess for all but the most specific applications - eg graphics editing in industry standard tooling like Photoshop.

    Thankfully the school my kids go to doesn't really give a crap what you run at home on on their laptops they used for school work as long as the kids are able to to their assignments. Almost 100% of what they do is browser based interfaces anyway, so it doesn't matter what the underlying OS is. I've made a point of teaching my kids Linux, macOS, and Windows. They've both asked to run Linux on their personal PCs... it was, and remains their choice.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    There's also the fact that later on if your kid wants to certain things, either as a hobby or just with their friends, they're SOL because they don't run on Linux and the FOSS alternatives are awful and would scare them away. Kid wants to play a game with Kernel level anti-cheat with their friends? Nope doesn't work with Linux, unless they want to risk getting banned. Want to try your hand at video making? Good luck using obscure software that may or may not spontaneously crash on you and getting cameras to talk to your computer properly. Get a new toy that talks to your computer? Ha ha nope in your dreams

    Sure you might be able to fix those problems, but can your kid? Can your kid do these things by themself and foster a sense of understanding and mastery over Linux, or are they going to grow up thinking that they can't do anything on their own computer because they constantly have to call over their dad for help?

    Growing up my house was a Linux household and the first thing I was taught how to do was how to dual-boot into windows because letting me play The Sims and have fun was a little more important than ideology wars