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@fediverse If you have any feedback on this idea I am just now playing with it. The term was mentioned months ago by @e and it had resonated with me since then and I have been wanting to try to give it a more formal definition since then. This is an idea in progress and I welcome any feedback you may have. Is this a useful concept to work on? Should we come up with a different name?
@liaizon @fediverse @e Like the idea very much!
On a side note: What I could need is an actual easy to understand "what is this even". I'm probably not the target audience but I don't understand the difference between #Mastodon and #calckey for example. and what most of these other tools do. But I'm also somewhat new to social media so maybe it takes time.
I'm running my own Mastodon instance and might run a Lemmy instance and others in the future, and there are a few immediate issues I'm already concerned about in that I'd love to be able to avoid having a whole bunch of unrelated usernames.
But webfinger responses only distinguish between mime types, and provide no additional hints, so while I now forward my webfinger queries from my main domain to my Mastodon instance, I'm not sure if I can replace that with a response that lists both Mastodon and Lemmy without breaking both (I also don't know whether or not Lemmy handles aliasing the same way Mastodon does, but that's me being unfamiliar with Lemmy). It'd be really nice to be able to have an alias point at multiple different fediverse accounts if you want to.
But that also raises additional usability issues with respect allowing picking which account to follow if there are multiple compatible options in a webfinger result...
There are many additional usability challenges there. E.g. if my Mastodon followers come across a Lemmy post I make on Mastodon, it'd be nice to have a mechanism to resolve back to my preferred alias (and vice versa) so they knew I'm me even if it's coming from another platform. It'd be really hard to get all of this flow smoothly without confusing users.
But it'd also be enormously powerful if this is addressed even if only partially, because if admins can optionally be able to offer users unified identities across platforms they provide (or even aliasing to other instances entirely), it instantly turns the Fediverse from a collection of different platforms to something much more comprehensive that none of the centralised Twitter, Reddit, Instagram etc. "alternatives" can even hope to try to compete with.
@fediverse Mastodon and Lemmy federating with each other
And kbin too please.
@wason Yes very much. I just started with one graphic, but I want to make a whole bunch to easily visualize different types of federation
@liaizon @fediverse as a newb to this (see my other post), what do they federate? Like from what I understand, Lemmy is a forum software. When I federate my Mastodon with someone's Lemmy, what do I see? Can I join in on threads on the Lemmy forum with Mastodon? and the other way around? Maybe I'm not getting the fediverse yet.
Not asking your precious time to guide me through this but that information would also be helpful in a visualisation like yours
@iameru you can reply to Lemmy threads with your Mastodon account and (sort of) follow communities as well.
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@bloodaxe @liaizon @fediverse ah thanks. So basic content is shared or made sharable, like favorites getting read by Lemmy as upvotes.
Btw, I use Mastodon aswell and isn't this a Mastodon thread? Or is this Lemmy and it's already so integrated I don't even recognize it? Are there hints to which service im talking to?
complicated, I'm on Lemmy rn talking to you
@iameru @bloodaxe @fediverse its both a mastodon thread and a lemmy thread cause we are all in the same fediverse! I started this lemmy thread from mastodon by tagging the lemmy group in the origonal post.