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there was an update from the admins of lemmy.nsfw where language barriers got in the way and the wrong impression was made, which was quickly addressed by the instance's other admin as well as edited by its' original author.

this got people in this instance concerned until the edit was made, however in two threads about it on kbin social the anime PFPs came out to play and the head admin of dataterm was obligated to comment as well

the funniest part is, it really demonstrates the truth of stereotypes about people with anime loli PFPs. at least a couple of the commenters in those threads are going to end up on watchlists.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Falmarri, I agree with a lot of your points. I don't think it is that there can't be opinions separate from the norm, but that pedophilia is a very sensitive and painful topic - and anything that reminds people of something that is that painful will trigger namecalling, rage and illogical conversations that just go nowhere because there is that much emotion involved. I would be somewhat caught off guard if people as a whole weren't emotional about it. I know as a survivor of SA, who has been receiving treatment for PTSD since I was in single digits, that the conversation is a difficult one for a lot of people, myself included. I strongly feel based on my work trying to prevent SA and supporting survivors, that there are things for me to be angry about in this world...a person wanking off on a drawing, who NEVER offends, is not something I am going to get worked up over.

IMHO People are going to have fantasies. But there is a very big difference between having a fantasy and acting on those fantasies, and most of society cannot see that difference, or the hypocrisy when they make their arguments. To say that a rape fantasy or game violence is somehow not as abhorrent as fantasizing with someone underage. Really? That disconnect to me is disgusting and vile, that people would honestly argue that even looking at a drawing of someone underage is evil (which in their rightful opinion is), but a bullet to the brain, or assaulting a cop in a video game before hijacking a vehicle isn't equally sick. At that point their argument loses a lot of merit for me, and I have to work really hard to listen.

[–] Falmarri 4 points 1 year ago

To say that a rape fantasy or game violence is somehow not as abhorrent as fantasizing with someone underage. Really? That disconnect to me is disgusting and vile, that people would honestly argue that even looking at a drawing of someone underage is evil

I think you're bringing a lot of your own judgement and assumptions here. A drawing of "someone" underage, meaning a specific person, certainly is much more problematic. But in the fantasy loli world, my understanding is often the characters are written in such a way that they can consent. Because they're written by adults for adults. Yes it's the "3000 year old dragon in the body of a child" argument, but is that really a bad argument? If in the fantasy world they really are an adult that can consent, is that not all that matters? Sure it's weird that they're drawn in a style that vaguely resembles a child, but if you seriously look at most anime and think attraction to that necessarily translates to the real world, I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm not that into anime, but I am a furry. And I can tell you that attraction to anything drawn really has no meaningful translation to real life.

I also know that many people fantasize about being the loli in these types of porn. The same way people fantasize about being raped.

but a bullet to the brain, or assaulting a cop in a video game before hijacking a vehicle isn’t equally sick.

I'm not sure. I guess I find it hard to say murder or assaulting a child is worse than the other, depending on the circumstances.