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[–] Rooki 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only thing i can see on the right bad is that many people dont like beeing cramped in with many other people. + want to have a garden Balcony can be a "garden" but not as good. I have nothing against the right, but keep in mind not everyone is the same.

[–] herr_hauptmann 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Add to that the fact you cannot make noise and are subjected to the noise made from your neighbours. Also, cramped spaces makes people more irritable.

[–] DarthBueller 5 points 1 year ago

Right - unless you're getting a custom home, builders do jack shit about noise control - at best, you'll have some fiberglass batting inside an interior wall, but even that is usually not done. Take the same kind of standard cost-cutting and apply it to an apartment complex, and congratulations, you just created the projects. My point being is that if residential density is a desired social policy, then there need to be standards put in place that focus on quality of life, not just safety/environmental standards. But builders and developers have regulatory capture (in the US), and things like "quality of life" are marketing premiums rather than something everyone should enjoy.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Buildings like the one on the right near me have something like community gardens, but exclusive to the residents.

I don't know exactly how it works, but it seems residents who want a garden have one, and those who don't aren't forced to maintain exactly X cm high grass.

[–] Rooki -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then its Left but with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh no. Because it still takes up significantly less space. Not everyone wants or cares about having a garden.

[–] Rooki 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah then they could have an house without grass XD. Its still the left but with LITERALLY extra steps.