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Isn't AI generated better than content sourced from real life? It could actually drive a reduction in child sexual abuse instances due to offenders leveraging alternative sources.
I wonder what it's trained on ๐คฎ
Based on my understanding of how current diffusion models work, you actually don't need to train it on CP. As long as it knows how humans look like without clothes and how children look like even if fully clothed with abayas and stuff, it can make the relation and generate CP when asked to.
Just to be clear, I'm totally against any form of CP and CSAM. Just explaining how the tech works.
I see what you're saying, but ai has yet to offset regular porn production at all. There's no reason I see to think accepting ai cp would do anything but normalize it and make it more accessible, possibly increasing demand for the real stuff.
Also, the ai models need to be trained on something...
One big problem is that it makes enforcement of real abuse impossible. If there is an explosion of that kind of ai generated content and it gets good enough to be confused for the real thing, then real abuse will slip under the radar. It would be impossible to sift through all that content trying to differentiate between ai generated and real if ai generated were ever allowed.
Alternatively it could become an indoctrination pipeline
This feels like a double edged sword.
No it won't.
Fueling the child addiction will harden the persons mental health problem.
One of the ways to help a person with such addiction, is to replace it with adult pornography.
Fueling it with more of that content won't do any good.
Mind linking the study you're refering here?
Majority of pedofiles never offend and most of the people in jail for child abuse are plain old rapists with no particular interest in kids per se, they're just an easy target.
This is the same old "violent games makes people violent" -argument all over again.
Wtf.
I'm not talking about all of them being violent or creating issues to all the children in the world.
Everyone is different, and only a small % is violent.
And no it's not the same as violent games, nor was there anything in my argument pointing to that, wtf!
If you want a study or whatever here https://www.cairn.info/revue-l-information-psychiatrique-2011-2-page-133.htm It's a bit old, things may have changed.
You mind quoting the part where it talks about the role of adult pornography and how fueling this "addiction" makes it worse?
There is no part to quote for worsening, there are plenty of studies on addiction to pornography, and addiction to child abuse/porn is the same thing.
However child abuse/pornography is in a way a different content from adult pornography and can both have their level of addiction.
Then why do you link that if it has almost nothing to do with what we're discussing here?
I'm not sure to follow you, why wouldn't it have a link?
It's obviously stated there is psychological help.
Doesn't it answer your first link question?
If you want more link go look on Wikipedia, there are 100ds of them.
Won't bother with you not reading them.
You made three claims:
Fueling the child addiction will harden the persons mental health problem.
One of the ways to help a person with such addiction, is to replace it with adult pornography.
Fueling it with more of that content wonโt do any good.
I asked for a source for these claims because obviously you didn't just come up with this yourself, so I'm assuming there's some study to back these claims up which I asked you to provide, and instead you gave me a link that even you admitted doesn't talk about any of this.
Also:
From the study you linked:
Well maybe psychological help may not be the right word in English. But there are still treatment shown there.
For the rest fueling the child addiction is the same thing as porn addiction in what I tried to explain.
Both adult porn and underage content could be "related" in the sense of addiction, but different in the category of content.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_addiction
For an addiction, like porn, it is hard to get out because it becomes an habit (it can be compared to gambling...). And changing the habit is very difficult. It becomes impulsive.
A solution to get out of such addiction, is to find another habit (in addition of adequate treatment or therapy). which will take the place of the porn addiction.
A could be similarly be translated to aldult/child content.
As stated in that study, most of the people considered attracted to childrens also have attraction to adult partners/content.
So a possible way could be the replacement of the child content with adult content.
Which is where the investigative journal I talked about comes in. I don't remember where and when (not something I look for...). But they went and interviewed a special medical house where people could be put, or go to get help and treatment.
I don't remember the %. But they found some success for people not falling back into children content.
It was in a news/investigation journal on TV at one point. I can't because I don't remember the time and journal.
They talked about people being put in some sort of helping home. There they helped the people get away from such content and replacing it with adult content.
This was pretty recent if I remember well. So the article above being from 2012 may not have all studies and information.