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Rather than edgy, they are straight up tankies (aka, russia and URSS apologists)
Wait, let me get this right
Both are authoritarian, two sides of the same shitty coin.
Equating communists you disagree with with fascism is holocaust trivialization, according to mainstream Jewish scholars of the holocaust.
https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory
Authoritarianism isn't the same as fascism. But the good guys don't side with the dictators and definitely not with the side hurting others even if they think giving in means the pain would stop.
Trivializing the Holocaust means to let bullies keep going unopposed and those that would trap and use others for labor or eradication which obviously can come from both sides but doesn't mean you pretend the easiest answer is right.
Right answers are hard and are likely at the end of hard work and effort, constantly. So maybe stop hiding behind a simple answer and a single fact that makes you feel you have a rule we are all breaking and realize it's gonna take a long and complicated answer and then come back and join the conversation.
Define authoritarian in a way that doesn't include all nations
No, we're not going to entertain your sealioning.
You're not going to because you can't, because the term is meaningless nonsense.
We are not equating "communists" with fascism, we are equating authoritarian communists with fascism. They are both as bad because they are both authoritarian regimes that are based around opressing the people.
And holicaust trivialization? Didn't the URSS kill a shit ton of people as well? Isn't China commiting crimes against humanity as well?
If you think the USSR is an "authoritarian"(whatever that means) communist country and you are equating it to fascists you are doing what the Jewish holocaust scholar is calling holocaust trivialization. They are primarily talking about equating the USSR and fascism. Did you read the article?
Ok tankie
Okay scratched liberal
You wish, baby
Glory to the Soviet Union
They'll never forgive them for liberating Europe
Fuck the soviet union - harder than how the soviet troops fucked both my grandmothers when they "liberated" my birth country, and harder than how the soviet rule fucked the economy afterwards.
are you like, serious
Now you got me interested: how exactly could this be anything but serious?
Im sorry but maybe I just don't believe you at all
I don't see what I could do to increase the chances of you believing me - thankfully nothing at all depends on it happening.
Oh wait, for the last one I can actually cite some sources:
for which country is this?
What relevance does it have? A country in Europe that was under soviet oppression between WW2 and the fall of the soviet union. There are several like it and it matters little which one did I happen to born in - all suffered a similar fate.
It matters because if its low population, gdp per capita will rise if its lowered. Also I would like to know where the sources are from and that its not some silly line you just faked.
The source is in the lower right corner. Population was in the high one-digit million scale. But none of this matters when one can clearly see how the economy skyrocketed after the soviets left.
I see how gdp per capita skyrocketed, not the economy.