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I installed the official Reddit app and went on it to see what the old place was looking like now. My inbox was filled with spam. The "home feed" shows subs I never subscribed to. There are so many ads. Between the ads and the the extra subs in the feed, it's hard to just scroll. I also noted a lot of spam in some of the subs. Maybe they are subs with no mods? I'm not sure what's up with that.

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[–] demlet 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So, I'm not trying to be snarky at all, just genuinely curious, as I've seen several people on Lemmy brag about how much they hate memes... Like, why? Do you not enjoy humor, or just not find them funny or something? It's a bit like someone saying they hate dogs to me. I honestly don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didn't say that I hate them. I said that I don't like them. Let's avoid using these words interchangeably.

The issue with these communities is that they recycle the same old material. You mostly see reposts and blatantly bad jokes. Sometimes I feel as though people feel the need to create a meme, but they don't have any idea what it should be about. It's like trying to write a book or song for the sake of writing one. Nothing good comes out of it without a creative idea.

When a new template becomes popular, people recreate old jokes with it, because even templates are not original anymore. There's even a meme about this from Scooby-Doo, where the guy reveals that the monster (new template) is actually some guy they already knew (old template).

Mostly, such communities pollute the feed with unoriginal and unfunny content that doesn't bring any value to me.

[–] demlet 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, I appreciate such a considered response. I do agree it gets old seeing the same exact post over and over. Reddit was getting really bad with that. Of course there's always the question of why some people find something funny and others don't too.

For me though, setting that aside, I just find the variations on a meme can be really fascinating. Then you have memes referring to other memes or imitating them, sort of like you described. Memes that descend into abstraction so as to become practically incomprehensible... I've had to research a few just to understand whay they were even talking about. I think at its best memeing is like some kind of collective conceptual art collaboration. Or like graffiti or music sampling. So interesting.

[–] mctit 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I felt that way as a teenager but now as an adult it's like a switch flipped and I find them insufferable. Memes within niche communities are still good though.

[–] demlet 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it seems like all the answers I get boil down to: people don't like them because they just don't like them. Which is perfectly fair, I'm not sure why I was expecting a more nuanced response from anyone. It's sort of like how some people like chocolate and others don't. Who can say why really? It is interesting though that Lemmy seems to have a disproportionate share of vocal meme detractors.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We do like humour. So called "memes" (that is, image macros, memes are an entirely different thing, of which image macros are merely a particularly malignant subset)... OK, I'll grant you, maybe they're not entirely the opposite of humour, maybe they're just what's left when you remove all the humour and just leave a dry mummified shell of what might have once been a very poor attempt at a bad joke... but still, if they're poorly made (as is the case 99% of the time), they're noise, they're spam, and if they have any value whatsoever it's entirely negative... and if they're "well" made... then they're just plain old political propaganda (but without the artistic value that good propaganda posters had), so noise, spam, and definitely of negative value to society.

[–] demlet 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think they're entirely negative. Memes can be very creative. Nor are they all political. That's a weird argument to me. As far as humor, I think we're just demonstrating how subjective it is. I find plenty of memes very funny. Yeah, can't say I agree with really anything you said there, at least not as a blanket statement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It stops being funny after the 500th time. A lot of them are lolsorandumb zoomer humor. So its completely incoherrent or contains some sort of inside joke.

I've hated them since it got popular on 4chan and 9gag back in the day. People were just spouting memes and I could tell they lacked intelligence because of it.

I love humor. I love comedies and stand up comedy.

Memes aren't really humor. They're rhetoric that gets repetitive.