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Pope Francis condemned the "very strong, organised, reactionary attitude" in the US church and said Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the US Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Francis’ comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the US Catholic Church, which has been split between progressives and conservatives who long found support in the doctrinaire papacies of St John Paul II and Benedict XVI, particularly on issues of abortion and same-sex marriage.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (51 children)

Atheist here. But I'll put a Christian hat on for a sec.

Humans are fallable. God isn't. Human interpretation of God's will is fallible. Therefore the church must adapt as humans become better at diving God's will.

Hat off.

I don't think that's a contradiction. Now I'm going to stand in my garage for an hour and sing, hoping it'll make me a good car.

[–] Redditiscancer789 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (42 children)

I never understood this argument. If God is all powerful how come he leaves his messages to interpretation. Shouldn't we all just be born knowing the exact wording and understanding? Also why does he need people to write his books and teach his lessons when again he supposedly is all powerful and could make it so we were born with this knowledge instead of leaving it to idiots who can't "comprehend God's great plan".

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Because that would be boring.

If we had all the answers, we'd be all knowing. If we were all knowing we wouldn't be distinct beings, we'd just be part of some hive mind that is God. Like an appendage of God.

Free will requires each of us to be beings that have knowledge and the capability to make decisions (even bad ones) outside God's control.

The old paradox, if God was so powerful could he make a Rock so big even he couldn't move it? Basically what free will is. Something created by God that can't be controlled by God. If it we were controlled by God it would destroy free will, which is something a Creator can't do.

[–] Redditiscancer789 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't believe in that paradox because if God is all powerful he could indeed make a rock so big he couldn't move it in that moment and at the same time could move it. Because that's what omnipotence looks like.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but if moving the rock destroys the rock, then if God did that, God would become a destroyer. If God is defined as being a Creator, destroying the rock results in God no longer being a Creator and therefore no longer God.

But a paradox doesn't disprove the existence of God. Life is full of paradoxes. Like quantum physics, WTF is going on there? I don't know, it's a thing that exists even though it doesn't make any sense.

[–] Redditiscancer789 1 points 1 year ago

Wtf are you babbling about god has destroyed plenty of things, like when they supposedly drowned all the world during the Noah's ark arc, to the destruction of the cities of Sodom and gamorra.

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