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[–] gmtom 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That whole first paragraph makes 0 sense to me?

Yes it does happen. Wtf does "soccer" have to do with anything. The only "rule" in socialism is that the workers own the means of production, and as I said before that doesn't not requite a state. You could make the same argument that a capitalist company is actually a kingdom and it would be just as valid as what you're saying.

And then the second paragraph, I really don't think you live anywhere that is actually that socialist and the grievances you're describing are regulation, not anything to do with socialism.

[–] HardNut 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only “rule” in socialism is that the workers own the means of production, and as I said before that doesn’t not requite a state

This is an incredibly general idea and makes no suggestion as to how this is achieved. You've made no effort to show me how to achieve this without rule of law, you just keep saying it'll work. Come on, think it through. Engage your brain. I'm sure the answer is there, I'm sure you know tons that I don't about how to structure socialism without rule of law, but you're just not saying any of it. Help me out here, give me some of your sacred knowledge please.

And then the second paragraph, I really don’t think you live anywhere that is actually that socialist and the grievances you’re describing are regulation

This is a great way to develop tunnel vision. Your only reason to suggest that what I said isn't true is that it contradicts your perception of the world. I don't care how smart you are, this mentality will completely break your ability to evaluate what's going on in the world.

[–] gmtom 0 points 1 year ago

I've already fucking told you how this is achieved. That was the whole point of my first comment. Its as simple as having the workers be the shareholders instead of a capitalist class. Why do you think this is unachievable without laws? And have you never heard of a co-op? As that is a very similar concept too.

So you're not going to mention where this mythical socialist land is? I'm guessing because you know its not actually more socialist than capitalist, and if you mention where it is, then that fact will become obvious.

At this point I'm starting to be convinced you're just a troll.