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I'm personally of the opinion that it's sadly necessary sometimes, but we definitely overuse it and it's always a tragedy when things get to the point where it's necessary.
Regardless of my opinion though, if you're interested in this you should probably check out this bit from a textbook on criminal law talking about the theoretical justifications for punishment because lots of people have thought and written lots about this and you may as well pick up the terminology they tend to use.
e; also, these are the arguments you're going to run into (pretty sure I see deterrence, retribution, and incapacitation theories in this thread)
i read the link and i decided i am NOT going to use that language. i don't want to legitimize most of that shit.
Understandable. When I said "pick up the terminology" I meant in the sense of having the right words to search to find the academic articles in favor of against.
After seeing all their comments on this post, I don't think this person is at the intellectual level of reading and comprehending academic arguments.
i think i'm ok with retribution, like a couple of brothers beating the shit out of their sister's rapist, or shunning or whatever. but i don't like the institution of prisons. we should figure something else out.
This article isn't really addressing the mechanism for punishment, just the reasons why we do it. Like, whether it's a couple of brothers or a taxpayer funded bureaucratic prison system, if we're punishing someone just because we think they deserve it it's retribution.
Beyond that, I feel like what you just described is actually just a step backwards from where we're at currently. Like, why should people who aren't privileged enough to have brothers not get the same kind of justice as people who do?
i imagine everyone has someone who would go to bat for them. it was just an example of ways that people organically take retribution which i am fine with