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[–] flossdaily 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You're talking about oppression of minorities, and no one is going to argue that that was unconscionable. But I'm referring to the character if America as a whole. No part of our population was untouched by the darkness of the Bush administration.

[–] FreeLikeGNU 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure you said:

Or: hey, we can label ANYONE we want as “ENEMY COMBATANTS” and they will have NO RIGHTS and we will torture them.

You don't think sending an entire ethnic group who are also American citizens to internment camps in the dessert forcing them to abandon their homes, work, friends, businesses is what you just described?

[–] flossdaily 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's slightly different. (Very slightly). Those American citizens actually did have the right to fight their incarceration in court.

... It just so happens that the court absolutely shit the bed in a 6-3 ruling about their constitutionality

On the other hand, internment camps were effectively ended by the the supreme Court the next year.

Contrast that with "enemy combatants" who had NO ACCESS TO THE CIVILIAN COURT SYSTEM.

[–] FreeLikeGNU 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't see how "slightly different" could support the argument that things were effectively better at the time citizens were put into camps. The legal system supported a racist policy by "6-3 ruling about their constitutionality". Furthermore:

internment camps were effectively ended by the the supreme Court the next year.

No. It was over two years before the order was suspended and the last of the camps shut down. The order was not officially terminated until 1976!

Over the spring of 1942, General John L. DeWitt issued Western Defense Command orders for Japanese Americans to present themselves for removal. In December 1944, President Roosevelt suspended Executive Order 9066, forced to do so by the Supreme Court decision Ex parte Endo. Detainees were released, often to resettlement facilities and temporary housing, and the camps were shut down by 1946.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066

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