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I am asking here because all the political subs don't allow a question, and US politics used to seemed so simple until to understand this man came along.

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[–] TheDarkKnight 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like Mueller half-assed it and the end result was nearly a fucking coup. Can’t let that happen again.

[–] Earthwormjim91 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Mueller didn’t half ass anything. He conducted his investigation and determined that crimes were likely committed, but that he didn’t have the power to bring charges in his position as special counsel and it would be up to the AG.

Which is true. A DOJ special counsel is not the same thing as the independent counsel that used to exist, which was what Ken Starr was when he investigated Clinton.

A DOJ special counsel is completely beholden to the AG and DOJ policies and can’t bring charges without the AG signing off on them.

If you actually read the mueller report, it’s extremely damning and he turned it over to the AG and Congress to do something about it. The AG declined to bring any charges based on a DOJ memorandum that says a sitting POTUS cannot be charged. The House impeached Trump over the findings and the Senate failed to convict and remove him.

The current AG could still bring criminal charges over the conclusion of the report, but at this point it’s been so highly politicized that it would be impossible to get a conviction on.

[–] Cryophilia 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop saying "the AG". Say his fucking traitor name. William Barr. Who only got cold feet at the 11th hour when the groundwork for the coup was already being made.

The Mueller report - as you say, damning - was completed and then given to this scum, who withheld it, released a "summary", claimed it found no wrongdoing whatsoever, eventually released a heavily redacted version...

I mean I remember it happening. This slimy fuck. He got a report that said the many ways Trump did illegal shit, but since he was the one who could choose when and how to release it, he was able to get ahead of the media by saying all kinds of bullshit lies. By the time he was finally forced to release the real report, it was too late, the "Trump did nothing wrong" story was already too far out there.

Look, I'm glad he finally, barely, by the skin of his teeth did the right thing and said there was no fraud in the 2020 election. But we should not forget that brazen bullshit he pulled in front of Congress and the American people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. It's insane we need to remember details like this but here we are.

[–] Cheems 6 points 1 year ago

This is exactly right

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@Earthwormjim91 I am wondering if that is the reason we are not seeing any of the Trump kinds getting indicted To not make it look like justice is hunting them and legitimize the poplitical lies?

[–] LEDZeppelin 33 points 1 year ago

Muller half assed the investigation, on top of that corrupt Barr hid all the important findings, and Bitch McConnell swept the whole treason under the rug - that all lead Orange Man to be even bolder with his treason and rise of blatant lawlessness within the Republican Party.

I don’t disagree with what you said but I just wanted to point out how entire republican machinery is responsible for the imminent death of democracy in this country. Not just Muller’s half assed investigation.