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I have always been curious about this. Did you get them to use other services or did they stubbornly refuse and you just accepted it? I am talking using Chrome, using Windows, using social media like Tiktok or Facebook or Instagram, etc. Bonus points if you have kids because that is even more work in the privacy realm

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I make the private option easier than the locked in version.

Homeassistant will let us see our locations, run lights, run media centers, control AC, etc. So why do you need Google Home or Google Maps Location Sharing?

Signal will let us chat over WIFI unlike texts, and I will answer it unlike a Google chat account. Before the SMS death it was easier since it did SMS and signal in one app, easier to convince someone if it can replace the old one and add new features.

I configure two SSIDs, one for things I trust and one for those I don't. I can run firewall rules and add security on the backend where they can't see it.

Tiktok you can run a campaign against it by saying it damages cognition, is harmful to youth, supports the CCP.

You can run a pi hole style filter list,ehich might break some stuff so you have to be willing to play tech support.

I don't know anything about kids but it couldn't hurt to teach them some simple skills like html so they get a taste for what's happening behind the scenes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Signal removing SMS support was the final straw that made me stop recommending it to friends. I had 100% of my contacts on Signal before that, and very few have left, but my new friends all use Instagram/Kakao/whatever.

I know that wasn't very related to your comment, but UGGHHH

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The worst part is how confusing it was for older people, who were worried the whole app was going to not work.

Signal was upset that "oh well some people can't figure out what's SMS and what's encrypted", but that was kind of... good? You could give parents, grandparents, etc an SMS app that was easy as the old one, and secure with the right people.

Don't get me started on the chat color fiasco. No signal, I SHOULD NOT CHANGE COLOR. I assign colors to people to distinguish them, I don't change who I am based on who I talk to.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Home assistant really is a game changer. Not having ten different apps is great, finally got our roomba fully offlined with rest980 and it works better than the official app and doesn't take forever to load or abrupty stop when there's an aws outage

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Robot vacuums are something non-tech people love, then they use the app and they don't love it anymore haha.

Shout out to Valetudo, which saved the day on our chinese roombas.

I am not quite happy with how the current iteration of the documentation no longer supports DIYing the firmware, it is actually still possible and you don't have to use dustbuilder.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly this!

I have different VLANs at home, I have a guest Wi-Fi, and my significant other simply uses the guest Wi-Fi.

I've been able to convince them to use signal, but that's about it. They're going to do what they're going to do. On their own isolated network

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I will answer it unlike..."

That's not making things easier, that's just forcing people to adapt to your niche choices or not be able to communicate with you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that's materially different from having to join Discord/Teams/Facebook because that's where someone you need to speak with communicates with how?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SMS doesn't require you to join any specific service except the phone service you're already paying for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And OP was talking about not answering 'google chat'. Calling that SMS is comparing apples to potatoes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, but OP and the people they want to connect with don't have to force their choice of proprietary app into others when there's a universal solution that works for all phones.