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Hey everyone, before you start dogpiling this person, take a step back and understand we're all one family.
When I first joined Lemmy, I joined Beehaw. I can't speak for all of the admins, but Lionir is one of the kindest most helpful people I've had the pleasure to meet. That said, between them not allowing community creation and defederating with the instance my football communities are on, I realised I had to find another home. If I was asked to articulate that at the time, I would've had no chance.
Our friend here is simply asking for an opportunity to commune with people beyond that of which his current admins enjoy. We don't know what it is. I can't speak for all of the people that were banned from anywhere. I know that I've met wonderful people from all servers. Yes even the terrible ones. Don't judge people by their instance. Unless they're admins and their instance is full of Nazis. Then please judge them.
I don't understand why you would take someone wanting to branch out and find their wings as a personal insult or threat.
Please just remember that we're a team. We make this place good by interacting civilly with one another.
Exactly, I am not necessarily planning on participating in these communities, I am just trying to be open minded and see what is posted there, who knows maybe there is something interesting.
Thing is, if you actually want to hear a diverse range of opinions, it's in your best interest to listen in places that remove hate-speech.
Because spaces that allow hate speech are at best unpleasant, and at worst actively unsafe, for the people who that hate-speech is aimed at. So those people, those large and diverse groups of people, will not speak freely in those spaces. They will leave those spaces. And so you will not hear their perspectives.
And basically all hate-speech is same idea. It is a rephrasing of one, single thought: "Those others, who are different to us, are inferior, and a threat to our way of life."
There is no such thing as a space where all ideas can co-exist, you must choose: Either you can hear the voices of a diverse group of people with varied life-experiences. Or you can hear the voices of an increasingly narrow segment of the population who are supportive of bigotry against those diverse people.
Well you are contradicting.
People who are affected by the hate speech, can easily chose one of the many instances that are curating and censoring, and that is completely fine. The others who are not sensitive to it and want to hear what the other side is saying, should have a way to do so I think.
Well you know, the same is said by both sides, and on both sides people always find a way to justify their stance and portray the other side as the worst evil, while the reality is in between.
That's why I am not picking sides, but instead decide on my own what I think make sense what does not, but in order to be able to do that, one needs to be exposed to both sides of the argument. You don't need to agree on everything with particular group, but you can agree on some things
And they do. And thus you will not see them, if you are in a space that does not remove hate-speech. You can join multiple spaces if you want, that's fine. But if you are choosing a single space, then you can choose one or the other. The voices of many diverse groups of people, or that one single repetition of fear of the other.
Please try actually reading, and thinking about what is written, rather than just typing out the first thought-terminating cliche that comes to mind. It's really difficult to take such nonsense seriously.