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[–] [email protected] 176 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

That whole video, and the follow-up, were incredible. I used to trust LTT quite a bit, but after the video, I've just chunks of respect for LTT. Dunno if i can ever trust them.

Edit:

I work in the tech industry. I work for an A tier company that makes servers, storage and more. I cannot imagine fucking up a benchmark/performance characterisation chart THIS badly even for an internal presentation.

I have spent hours double checking and re-running tests to ensure I'm getting the right numbers.

And to see a channel as big as LTT goofing up numbers so badly, which have the potential to affect thousands of purchasing decisions, i can't even.

We also work with vendors, who sometimes send hardware prototypes. And we can never be THIS unprofessional to them.

[–] HRDS_654 125 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will say this, and some may consider this my hot take; I feel like Linus needs to step back from responding to community feedback as well. I get that it's his company and he probably feels responsibility to respond, but he does not respond well to criticism. The biggest tell on how his employees feel was Luke's face during the video. It was obvious even without him saying anything that he knew the hot take response was not going to turn out well. These situations are part of being a CEO not an owner and Linus needs to show that he trusts the new CEO enough to respond accordingly. Linus continues to handle this problem in the exact wrong manner when he shouldn't be handling it at all m

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Luke's face during the video.

Man I felt so bad for him. I think he should've spoken up and called Linus out.

[–] UnfortunateShort 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it's not even the first time. I have a strong feeling that Luke agrees with Steve in many points.

[–] HRDS_654 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure many employees agree with Steve based on the recent LTT video featuring Yvonne.

[–] arin 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clearly not the LTT labs test engineer who started this fire lol

[–] HRDS_654 2 points 1 year ago

The engineer who started this is kind of a pretentious dick. I saw a video where they introduced all the new employees and he was one of them. The dude spent his time explaining how to make the perfect cup of coffee (a 30min process) and disparaging normal coffee makers. The only good point is had was his jab at Starbucks that was deserved. He is basically the stereotype you think of when you conjure the average engineer personality.

[–] franklin 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm somewhat conflicted on the entire matter. I felt like their quality was slipping for some time and it's been difficult to watch them.

Linus has handled almost every community crisis extremely poorly because when under pressure he gets defensive and speaks without thinking often pouring gasoline on the fire.

At the same time I can understand his motivations as the livelihoods of his now very large number of employees depends on it.

I think if LTT had responded officially and earnestly to the criticism addressing and laying out of roadmap for remediation it would have bought a lot of goodwill. I think Linus needs to be removed from LTT public relations but I don't think that will ever happen.

Truly a sad day, glad we have GN

Edit: I wish I could understand what I said that was down vote worthy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, for some time I felt the best videos from them where the infrastructure and server ones, just Jake and Linus united in chaos. The reviews in the other hand, as soon as you look at the graphs for more then the time they are shown, something felt off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Totally agree about the infrastructure and server point. The house and upgrade videos are great too because of the chaos and personalities. I personally like the house videos because I have similar projects to centralize my PCs and have gone through some of those struggles. The reviews at this point are just a reminder that a new product is out and to do some research if it's something I'm interested in.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Removing him from public relations means removing him from the WAN show, which is a significant revenue source for them

[–] Anonymousllama 11 points 1 year ago

The wan show is arguably one of the better content pieces they put out. You actually get a good solid few hours of opinions and stories (and the occasional justification for their latest controversy)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

How much revenue will be lost because of him running his mouth?

Change up the show and don't let him address criticism, simple as.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I said in another comment: Maybe remove a part of him from that and let WAN show be just a tech talk + community Q/A + anecdotes.
Maybe every few weeks give the new CEO the questions that accumulated about business for the transparency Linus wants to show/talks about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

community Q/A

That's where a significant amount of linus' previous controversies have come from

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Fair point. I meant it more in regards of anecdotes and past experiences and less in the way it evolved to.
I think my communication and lack of english skill is hindering me in what I mean.

Basically less of that and more of the other stuff that will cause less controversy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He kinda responded to it in a forum post. One paragraph about "improving processes and communication".

The rest was him doubling down on everything.

He literally said that they auctioned the billet block and didn't sell it. Like.. what?! Are we playing semantics here?

And he again emphasised that they didn't want to "waste" the money to test the billet block properly, and he actually said that he didn't want anyone to buy the billet block. In these exact words.

[–] franklin 1 points 1 year ago

Gross, they need to stop letting him speak for the company, his employees don't deserve this.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems Linus is in love with money now.

[–] vind 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] instamat 6 points 1 year ago

Exactly. How do you think it got to this point? “Growing pains” aka stretching yourself beyond your means to take more money

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What video? I'm out of the loop

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] thesprongler 2 points 1 year ago

LTT is like Fox News - it may come off as statistical analysis of technology but it's really just there for entertainment purposes. They may call themselves fair and balanced but they offer favorable reviews to sponsors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linus made a post on LTTForums, but LMG/LTT, as a company, has yet to respond.

Update: Video up on LTT channel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I never really trusted them. They were the wacky tech entertainment channel, which was fun! But their actual benchmarking has always been a mess unfortunately.

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