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I don't understand the hate the game gets, it's a free game.
No it isn't. I paid $40 for it.
And 7 years after the fact, how is your one time $40 purchase still paying to keep the servers running?
I don't like the monetary scheme that Blizzard settled on for OW2, I'm never paying $25 for a skin, but the $10 battle pass every 2 months is reasonable in my opinion.
If that battle pass contained all of that season's cosmetic content and followed a FOMOless scheme more similar to Halo MCC or Deep Rock Galactic, I think most people wouldn't complain but clearly we have whales that are willing to dump stupid amounts of cash on singular skins.
I love how you're pretending that the exact business model Blizzard operated on successfully for 15 years doesn't work.
What other Blizzard titles relied on a single time purchase and loot boxes for their payment scheme? Wasn't WoW subscription based WITH paid expansions? StarCraft and Diablo definitely had paid expansions.
Maybe the argument could be made for Hearthstone or HotS but I won't consider them Blizzard's flagship titles either.
Overwatch also had paid lootboxes and skins. Overwatch was very heavily monetized.
The company as a whole is profitable, and have been for at least the last few years. I'm on mobile so I'm not able to read their annual investor reports, but do they actually mention overwatch being a loss for the company on a premium model, or are you assuming that?
I'm making assumptions but I don't think it's asinine to assume that they would rather run their service with a constant steady income from a subscription model rather than a one time purchase over the period of half a decade. It would have been one thing if they released paid expansions to the base game every few years but they never did that.
It also doesn't matter if the company as a whole is profitable if Overwatch itself isn't. They aren't Kirkland with the food court hotdogs or rotisserie chickens, as in trying to use Overwatch to pull people into their other games even though it's a net negative for them to continue to support.
What do you even accomplished by white Knight ingredients for a big media company with a long history of shitty business practices?
Not picking up a pitchfork and joining the mob is now white knighting? Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
I'm not here to defend Blizzard, frankly fuck them and their mismanagement of a great IP, but people are definitely blowing Overwatch's failure out of proportion and just hopping on a bandwagon.
they ruined the game with false promises of PVE for the last 4 years and then released monetization and nothing else. they just released a shitty pve gamemode thats 15 bucks for like 3 missions i think which is a slap in the face
It didn't use to be.
People give a negative review because they consider the game to be much worse than it was in the past.
I bought Overwatch on PlayStation, Xbox, Switch, and PC. I also bought it for my daughter on PC. We would play online together.
I would then buy myself and my daughter each a big loot box pack when there was a new event (Halloween, Christmas, etc.) so that we could get some fun cosmetics.
I paid A LOT of money for Overwatch.
Blizzard then killed off the game. It's gone. We cannot play it, ever again.
In its place is now Overwatch 2. It looks similar, but it plays differently and has new mechanics and a whole-new monetary system that locks gameplay elements behind a paywall.
The game now being "free" for everyone to download doesn't make anything about it better. And it certainly doesn't make up for the fact that the old game is gone.
plenty of games have made the transition from paid to f2p and lots of those have also been acompanied by large overhauls/patches. none of them i remember have had as large a backlash as overwatch did.
As of April 2022, Blizzard had apparently sold over 50,000,000 copies of Overwatch. That means it is one of the best-selling games of all time. That is over 50,000,000 copies now gone. Of course you're going to hear a LOT of complaints.
Were any of those other games you're talking about as big as Overwatch? Were they as successful as Overwatch? I really doubt they had anywhere near the player-base as Overwatch.
Lots of companies switch games around. Many times it's because they are financially hurting or otherwise need a way to increase funding.
Blizzard had a massive hit and also promised updates to make the game even better.
After years and years of promising this, Blizzard basically told all their customers psych.
Not only was the big PvE mode not coming, they very game they were already playing all these years was also going away.
What kind of attitude is this? You're still being used by them as content for the paying users. I'd at least like to get dinner before i get forked.
so youre saying if that wouldve happened you wouldnt leave a bad review due to the fact its a bad experience you would just leave?
thats a crazy argument you just made and it's even crazier that youre implying the other guy is being crazy. lots of mental gymnastics on this one
What kind of analogy is that??????????? What the hell does banging your girlfriend before going to Olive Garden have to do with shitty OW2?
Nothing is truly free, including this game. A fraction of the game is free, while the first one that many of us paid for is completely gone (which to me sounds like the grounds for a class action lawsuit but idk).