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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Jumper775 to c/android
 

I have been convinced to switch from apple, and i am soon purchasing a pixel 7 pro. I would then like to put a custom rom on it because i would:

  1. like to use foss more
  2. like to maintain better privacy than apple offers
  3. would enjoy the control over the system
  4. not like to ever touch google chrome

There are some limitations to what i can choose though, as i need the following to work:

  1. google apps like sheets/docs/classroom/youtube
  2. banking app (usaa specifically)
  3. play store (could be replaced)

Additionally i would like to keep the flashy camera stuff google talks about with the camera as i use the camera a fair bit. I have also heard that androids can have different UIs, so i would appreciate a nice looking one (i use gnome on my desktop for this reason alone). What ROMs would you guys recommend i choose?

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[–] Jumper775 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is good advice, i will wait a few days. That being said, if i can get all my apps working and i do decide to go for it, how would lineageOS compare to something like GrapheneOS for example? what other kinds of things might i lose if i choose to use a custom ROM?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lineages is focused more on customisability and features and device longevity

grapheneos is focused on security and privacy

many features implemented in grapheneos has been upstreamed in aosp(base) android

one disadvantage of grapheneos' approach is it stops updating after vendor(google) stops updating the firmware as it considers the device depricated

[–] pirat 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Will it receive updates after reflashing the stock ROM? Or is there another way? Through updating GrapheneOS?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand, can you clarify?

[–] pirat 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I think I misunderstood your comment. I thought what you said was that after installing GrapheneOS, you wouldn't receive firmware updates from Google. What you actually said was, correct me if I'm wrong, that GrapheneOS will only be able to release updates for a device as long as Google itself does so, because they're based on Google's updates, right? Does this mean that other custom ROMS that are based on a different approach will be able to keep releasing updates for a device after Google stops at "EoL" after 7 years?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

yes, there are hardware security fixes and os security fixes

google only releases updates for 3-5 years, so grapheneos also supports that device for the same period

but others like lineageos just keep porting the os to older devices which no longer receive hardware security fixes as they also focus on device longevity

[–] pirat 1 points 11 months ago

Guaranteed 3 years of OS updates while 5 years of security updates for most Pixel phones. The recently released Pixel 8 and 8 Pro are exceptions with 7 years of each. Source: Google

I like Lineages take of bringing new life to "old" yet still great devices too!

[–] MargotRobbie 2 points 1 year ago

You will lose Google services and will have to replace them with something called MicroG, an open source implementation.

I personally haven't done much custom ROMs, you may want to see if someone more knowledgeable on the topic will chime in here.

[–] TheInsane42 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been using Lineage since it was called CyanogenMod (was maintainer for Samsung Tab S2). It is the cleanest rom I found. You'll need a gapps (google apps) source, but there is Nickgapps that gives a core set that only gives google store and the required services, so you can add whatever you want from the store.

I don't know GrpahenOS, but the only one even less bloated I know is AOSP, on which Lineage is based. You can add whatever you want, root is available via Magisk, which gives even more options. (Ad blocking via LSposed and MinMinGuard spring to mind)

[–] Lime66 1 points 1 year ago

Graphene os does not require root