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Honestly this is absurd. These death machines shouldn't be legal in europe. That thing doesn't even fit in the parking space, even though the parking lot has the biggest spaces in the whole city. The ~~Golf~~ Polo is so small in comparison, it could even hide in front of the engine hood of the truck.

EDIT: It's a Polo and not a Golf, I don't know my cars, sorry for that!

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[–] PixelOfLife 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

This question baffles me because it seems like a total non-issue to me as a European. How do Americans get stuff for their house around? Do you not have delivery or truck/van/trailer rental services, and are all your appliances (and not just fridges/freezers which are apparently hilariously big in the US) so American-sized that you can't fit them in an average family hatchback/crossover/SUV? Or do you regularly move all of your stuff from one house to another?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The answer is a resounding yes; in most of the US it's absolutely normal to have large appliances delivered, installed and your old appliance hauled away as part of a single purchase. Where this isn't as true is in rural areas that, especially in the west, are often far more remote than anything in Europe apart from, perhaps, Northern Scandinavia and parts of Russia.

[–] Zpiritual 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've lived in northern sweden and unlike americans we don't haul appliances around daily. When I would buy one I hooked up my trailer, brought my old broken one to the recycling center and picked up my new from the store going home. Or pay for delivery and disposal if that was an option.

It would take the entire day due to the distance but that's not really the fault of the trailer or the car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

WTF are you on about? Where did I say that Americans haul appliances around daily?

That's ludicrous.

Maybe we have a communication failure, I don't know.

That said, I have family in Sweden and by all accounts it seems like a better place to live than the US, though I live in the Pacific Northwest and would be very hard-pressed to give up the proximity to wild untouched nature that we have here.

Even here in Portland I'm still less than a few boat trips and a bush plane ride away from the deep roadless bush in British Columbia or Alaska.

[–] Invisinak 8 points 1 year ago

as someone that's never owned a truck and moved a lot I will say one of the biggest issues with moving here is truck/car rentals. you have to be 26 to rent one and if like me you have no contact with family and you're moving across country it becomes a real issue. thankfully I've had decent people in my life willing to help me but if that isn't the case you really are just kinda screwed on a rental here in the United States.

[–] joel_feila 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

most appliances like that stay with the house when you move. When they get replaced they get delivered and install generally by a box truck or roughly a lori sized vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

here in the states, most home purchase do not include appliances (refrigerators, stoves, etc) unless it is built in. now if you rent an apartment, the apartment complex is responsible for stoves and refrigerators. washer and driers are not normally included in that if the apartment has hookups.

[–] joel_feila 1 points 1 year ago

Yet every time I have moved my family left to old refrigerator behind. They might replace to old at the new house, but we never took old one with us.

[–] Phrodo_00 1 points 1 year ago

This isn't the norm in Seattle, but I'm not familiar with anywhere else

[–] TheDoctorDonna 3 points 1 year ago

Yes and yes.

My last SUV was quite large and I had a hard time fitting a portable dishwasher in it. Unfortunately the American largeness is in Canada as well.

Also we moved quite a lot sometimes because we can't afford nice places and end up in places where the landlord painted over mold and shit so we nope the fuck out as soon as our lease is up.

[–] GladiusB 1 points 1 year ago

No. One person has a SUV. But I have a house. When I first got my house I did a lot of home repairs. Then a truck was being used every other weekend. A car would not suffice.