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I'm a conservative. I don't mind the liberal stuff here. It's good to learn the other side, but I don't want a liberal echo chamber. I'd like to be more politically balanced in the fediverse. Is there any way I can do that?

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[–] o_oli 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I mean honestly it's probably near impossible to discuss conservative politics online these days without the far right loonies invading, taking over and getting the place banned lol.

Also I wonder if conservatives would be put off lemmy given the political stance of its creators - even though that shouldn't matter being free and open and not controlled by any one person, you know how people are.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why do you think it is, that those "far right loonies" feel welcome and comfortable in those "conservative" spaces?

[–] o_oli 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, while that could be correct I also consider that if far right spaces get banned regularly then those people are refugees that will invade the next closest thing?

Obviously the next closest thing to far right, is center right. Does that make the center right inherently bad? I don't think so necessarily on principle.

I disagree with conservative views almost entirely but its not something that I believe shouldn't have discussion spaces, unlike far right politics which can just get fucked with their disdain for basic human rights, they don't deserve a seat at the table at all.

I suppose ultimately it's down to moderation isn't it. If conservatives want a seat at the table they have to keep their lunatics in check and if they don't then yeah don't see why I should cry over it really, and thats true of all online communities.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Center-right just fits in with everyone else. Either all those people have shut up and just blend in with liberals or they don’t really exist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I know, so weird right

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If someone is “conservative” but not a Trump loving Q nut job, I’d argue that they have about the same in common with the Biden administration than many progressives online do. There is no overlap with the majority republicans party today. The concept of discussion is not compatible.

[–] o_oli 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean there are also other countries in the world with various varieties of conservatives but I see your point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The conservatives in many other first world nation would fit better with the democrats in the US at the center. The US Republican party is lost. These people do pop up in other countries though, Canada especially.

[–] mayo 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my issue as well. There is nothing inherently wrong with conservative politics, but most arguments I see about politics online are about highly charged topics instead of actual policy discussion. Lots of heated emotions from people whose easiest outlet is anger doesn't make for good conversations.

It often feels like we represent media interests and are arguing on behalf of whatever source we spend the most time immersed in.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

What US conservative platform bullet isn’t a grift? Is there any? It’s been nearly a decade since I came across a conservative arguing anything in good faith.

[–] Draconic_NEO 2 points 1 year ago

Also I wonder if conservatives would be put off lemmy given the political stance of its creators - even though that shouldn't matter being free and open and not controlled by any one person, you know how people are.

I've already seen it happening with people on Reddit (they don't seem particularly conservative either) claiming that lemmy is "built and run by Tankies". Many of these people though are/were also scabs so take that as you will.