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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Antineutrinos don't interact with almost anything. They're just a bunch of wimps. They're harmless. Neat for mapping nuclear reactors tho.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

informative but the name-calling was uncalled for

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GenX scientists naming things. Was it a mistake? Maybe, but we’re having a laugh.

[–] IMongoose 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sonic the hedgehog protein has entered the chat

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

We can't just talk about the sonic hedgehog protein and not mention that the first sonic inhibitor found was named Robotnikinin

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Nothing personnel scientist

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How is the map data obtained?

Edit: Looked up the article. It seems they took known geological data and calculated the geo-antineutrino flux map based on measurements from detectors in Japan and Italy. Reactor antineutrinos are calculated from the international atomic energy agency data and assumptions on antineutrino rates.

In short, this is just a distance-from-nuclear reactors map

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But they don’t interact with anything so how are we detecting them I think is what he is asking.

[–] Womble 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they do interact with matter, just incredibly weakly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do interact with other stuff a little bit. It's very difficult to detect them because they hardly interact with anything, but it's not absolutely nothing so it's not impossible to detect them. This is well beyond my level of physics knowledge, but apparently one such interaction is a process called inverse beta decay. High-energy antineutrinos that crash in to protons produce a pair of particles that is much more easily detectable. A rule of physics called lepton conservation, which is about the fundamental building blocks of particles involved in a reaction not changing, makes this pair of detectable particles identifiable as being caused by an incoming antineutrino.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are these the same particles they are trying to detect with the big ice detector thingee in Antarctica

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Assuming you're referring to the IceCube neutrino observatory, yes (although I think it also does regular neutrinos, not just antineutrinos)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could these be used to locate nuclear submarines and the like?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. This is a map of estimated antineutrino rates generated from known data.

Data from a theoretical detector that can calculate where its detected neutrinos came from from could be compared to this to find anomalies, but we're not there yet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Probably not, unless the military is hiding some next level tech.

For example, the current generation of detectors, nearly all of which weigh upwards of a ton, have to be placed within tens of meters of a reactor’s core—inside a facility’s fence.

https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/36

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

are you saying we're making dark matter here on earth

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a good question, but no. It was just a bit of word play.

Antineutrinos are not WIMPs. WIMPs are weakly interacting massive particles. Antineutrinos are anything but massive, they're almost massless, so massless that they were, for the longest time, thought to be massless. They can be a product of dark matter, as speculated, but they aren't it tho.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I thought so. I guess you could call them WILPs instead (Weakly Interacting Light Particles).