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Any ex-Tesla employees willing to take up an offer? 😜

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[–] Motavader 121 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Perhaps he's forgotten that free speech means you're free to say whatever you want, but you're not free from the repercussions. Especially in all the "at will" employee states.

This is so stupid.

[–] mindbleach 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"At will" is pure conservative bullshit, right down to the name being a lie that makes "fired for illegal reasons but wink wink doesn't count" harmful to even discuss.

No relation to Musk's stupidity. Just picking a nit.

[–] Motavader 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's exactly what I mean. Employees in At Will states can legally be fired for anything short of violations of protected classes, so I'm not sure how he's expecting to win here.

[–] givesomefucks 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they can be fired for those reasons, it's on the fired employee to prove it was because of those protected reasons and be able to fight it after the fact in court.

When an employer can choose to go into as little detail as "you're fired because I said so" it takes a very stupid employer to lose that fight.

[–] drzoidberg 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It helps if you still have friends that work at the company, that can kind of spy for you too.

An older woman was fired from the company I worked at in the early 2000s, and she was friends with a few people that still worked at the company. Found out she was replaced with a younger less qualified guy, and her friends were able to corroborate a lot of the ageism/sexism stuff, and she won the suit. Think she ended up being awarded something like whatever her salary was until the age of retirement, and ended up with close to a million dollar settlement.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Wow! Getting fired was the best move of her career then.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Musk’s philosophy is apparently: if it’s not okay to fire someone for being trans, a woman or for their race, why is it okay to fire someone for being anti-trans, misogynistic or racist?

[–] el_cordoba 8 points 1 year ago

Stupid? Definitely. A play out of Trump's playbook? Kinda. Normally Trump is the one that gets sued.

They will probably look to get small to mid size employers to settle in order to avoid a costly legal battles. Although I wouldn't be surprised if this is all just a ploy to keep his fanboys in line.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

He has never faced any consequences for anything. He didn't forget that, it's never applied to him.

[–] 007v2 2 points 1 year ago

Forgot? He never knew.

[–] Lord_McAlister 1 points 1 year ago

He knows exactly what free speech means. But now he releases he may be able to make more money if people didn't have it.