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Building an echo chamber alone is hard. (self.conservative)

submitted 2 years ago by stanleytweedle to c/conservative

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Almost feel sorry for this guy, working so hard to create an echo chamber all by themselves.

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[–] stanleytweedle 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well you did a poor job of not getting into a discussion about definitions- lol. But I don't really care. People who declare their ideology pre-discussion are self-enforcing their chosen ideology as dogma, so pick whatever term you prefer.

I use something vague like “leftist” to describe myself, but I do think it often leads to prejudice where people assume they know all my personal views simply based on the label I use

Then what is the value of that label, or any? Why not just express your ideas on their own merit and avoid the association altogether?

[–] aski3252 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well you did a poor job of not getting into a discussion about definitions- lol. But I don’t really care. People who declare their ideology pre-discussion are self-enforcing their chosen ideology as dogma, so pick whatever term you prefer.

I mean at least I'm not arguing that you have to use my definitions or that my definition is the only correct one. I kinda have to know how you use the term to understand, but now that I do, I don't have an issue using the term "ideology" the way you do.

Then what is the value of that label, or any?

In my opinion, there is not a lot of value in labels. I agree with you here. That's why I try to avoid them.

But sometimes, people will start to apply their own labels on you regardless and it will often be labels that don't fit. And at that point, I will rather use my own label than have a label that I don't like be applied to me.

[–] stanleytweedle 6 points 2 years ago

But sometimes, people will start to apply their own labels on you regardless and it will often be labels that don’t fit. And at that point, I will rather use my own label than have a label that I don’t like be applied to me.

In those circumstances I recommend turning it around on them and make them explain why they assumed a label for you. Let them expose their own ridiculous team name biases. Or better yet just ignore them because anyone who speaks to you as a representative of an ideology isn't really speaking to you at all.