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To top it off, ebikes and escooters have speed limiters or are outright banned in many places, yet cars never have speed limiters in them.
Cars 100% have limiters on them. Required by law.
Fun fact: different places have different laws but the same internet!
Totally not required by law
In what way?
What law? There is no such law in either the US or Canada (US because the internet is generally US-Centric, Canada because that's where I am)
The vehicles do have governors, but it's more about whats safe for the vehicle and its tire rating than road speeds.
Not all vehicles in North America have governors nor is it required by law.
Alot of Japanese cars do but that’s because they didn’t bother removing the governor that they use in Japan (190kph/118mph). Most American and European manufactured cars are limited by transmission or physics and not governors.
What are you asking for?
Literally none of those are speed limiters.
Incorrect.
Also incorrect.
What are paragraphs?
When one of them has nothing to do with the other three, splitting them into separate paragraphs is good practice to avoid confusion.
Consider being less unpleasant.
Forklifts are typically heavier than cars, easier to tip, come with piercing forks and, are operated in pedestrian heavy areas much more frequently. You can be certified a lot quicker and easier than it takes to get a driver's license, and typically you won't be the one registering and insuring the equipment. And that's just one specific type of heavy equipment.
the hard part of learning to drive isn't learning how to drive, it's learning how to drive accounting for the fact that everybody sucks at driving
that's not really an issue with a forklift
There are two driving lives. The first one begins when you get your license. The second one begins when you realize at least half the cars you see everyday are driven by dangerous morons whos intelligence and awareness are far surpassed by the average dog. A good red flag for a dangerous idiot is tailgaters and people who don't keep the 3 car safety distance. "I want you to go faster so I'm going to get my front as close as I can to your rear and blind you with ultrabrights!" "How bout I go 5 miles slower just to piss you off you stupid fucking animal."
even ignoring the spite factor, you actually should go slower, since you need more time to slow down if something happens ahead of you or they'll rear end you
???
Forklifts are often operated inside warehouses, backrooms, and behind stores and in store parking lots. Cars don't drive there, but employees, vendors, inspectors and customers walk in these areas. I've yet to see a forklift on a highway or high traffic road. Which is why forklift operators have spotters.
So they're saying that it should be easier to be given a driver's license? I was forklift certified in a couple hours in a day. I had to drive for many hours over the course of a year before I was allowed to drive solo in a vehicle.
Plus I've never had to have an eye exam to be certified on a forklift.
The point they think they're making and the point they're actually making are two different things.
Cars have rev limiters
This is to protect the engines. You can get a car up above 100mph easily enough.
Every car made has a speed limiter that's usually capped at the rated speed for the tires.
The only ones I've seen with electronic limiters are usually sports cars and way above a reasonable highway speed, like 140+
My old 90s beater had a governor at about 100mph. My current car's is 125. According to Bloomberg every car sold has a governor, but apparently I'm wrong on the reason. It's not the law but no insurance company will insure a new car that doesn't have one since the mid 90s.
The 90s still was trailing off the Oil Crisis, trucks having 55 on the dash (and nothing more) was still commonplace.
Modern cars can still be insured without governor. A 2010s Fiesta still can hit its top speed of 135 (gear limited and not a governor).
I'm in the U.S., and I've never driven a car with one.
Germany here: the speed limiter in regards to tires is a little sticker.
Plus maybe a little warning in the cockpit that the speed limit has been exceeded
your car is capable of going over 100mph, the odds of you going far beyond that is very low unless you're a complete moron.
Unfortunately there are an awful low of complete morons allowed to drive.
E-bikes should be banned on bikeways, they are motorcycles not bikes
That depends on the type of ebike, surely? Here in the UK/EU ebikes are limited to 250w power, motor only active when pedaling, and a max speed of 25kph. I regularly get over 25kph on my acoustic bike, should I also be banned from bike ways?