News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
He very obviously wants to get a dramatic scene of feds walking him from his home either grabbing him under the armpit, a guy on each side, or in cuffs. The scene we see for… basically every arrest by feds ever.
Since he clearly wants it and by far met the standard under our current legal system to be properly arrested and booked, give him what he wants. Hold him in a cell for a few days without bail. Rile the hogs a little and put down the feral ones. If they see their daddy facing consequences, even if it’s just the treatment any of us would receive (although we’d get the knee on our head after our baby got flashbanged treatment), maybe the illusion of him being untouchable goes away a little. There isn’t a significant number of mentally deranged hogs out there, certainly nothing the bloated FBI and state police departments can’t squash, so just do it already and stop being pussies. It’s pretty much that or drop all the charges because you aren’t serious about holding him accountable.
If that's what he wanted, his lawyers could easily arranged it by not not negotiating & scheduling his appearance for the arraignments. But they didn't.
Your proposal assumes most of the MAGA wacko nutjobs aren't armed up to handle bloated FBI and poorly trained local law enforcement.
I'm lower-middle class and barely own under 1k rounds of ammo for various guns thanks to blue laws making it cost-prohibive, and that shit is expensive af in states with sane gun laws.
The rural MAGA retards spent their paychecks on ammo in their shithole red states and can buy an essential entire arms room for way cheaper. Good luck to the rural law enforcement guys with high school educations fighting brainwashed retired war veterans that have gone through several mandatory post-college quality military schools.
In practice, how often is someone more dangerous with multiple weapons than they would be with one?
How many incidents have unfolded where the outcome changed because the perpetrators possessed multiple firearms?
I don't understand the point of stockpiling weapons. You can only shoot one, and you'll probably be dead within seconds of opening fire.
They're not going to go shoot up their own town, and the FBI and local law enforcement aren't going to go hunt down everybody with a stockpile of ammo that voted for Trump.
Realistically, they'd go for wherever Trump is being held, and the respective SWAT teams (including FBI SWAT) or active duty national guard would deal with it.
I hope it wouldn't get to it, but that would also be valid grounds for the deployment of the insurrection act (unlike Trump when his team wanted to use it to steal the election). Those old veterans with their subpar domestic equipment would be up against fully armed active duty national guard, army, marines, seals, etc
I am losing no sleep overnight about MAGA wackjobs "rescuing" Trump.
The problem is that they arent gonna rescue trump. They will just do raids against infrastructure, take out cops that arent with them, local politicians, etc. They are morons, but all it takes is one asshole that knows what to do to make them effective. With republicans hamstringing the government for 50 years, and federal police recently, it would need a counter insurgency from the military.
I think we should have let Sherman finish the job and listened to him during reconstruction. The south is rising again. We need an "Operation Southern Liberation" and bring democracy to them.
Oh so we should just give in to terrorism? Roll over and let trump do what he wants because of that? The fuck is wrong with you?
Sorry I wasn't clear, we need to do a military intervention so that these fascists in republican clothing can stop weakening our nation by slowly taking away our democracy. They control the voting in a manner that they can maintain majority in their ~~fiefdom~~ state which sends those assholes to congress.
I will lose sleep over the nut jobs that fantasize about shouting up their local town police force to “rescue trump”.
These are the same types of people that caused the civil war. I don’t the great sort is at that point yet - but it worries me that they are willing to destroy the country to (try and) maintain their position of power over others.
I don’t see how we defuse and resolve those conflicts. They’ve been going on for a long time.
The right wing militias could be dealt with easily, but no one wants to just do it. You declare them armed enemies of the state, make lists of the leadership and anyone associated that you can, go in like a military conquest with blackhawks and all the firepower, take them all down, shut down all their sites, and then immediate take down anyone in the following months who wants to do lone wolf shit saying it’s because of the raids. Yeah it won’t be pretty, but some short term asspain is better than decades of them just existing.
That’s how you’d do it, but tbh, my biggest problem isn’t the worry but rather the absolute knowledge that the feds could do that any time they wanted easily. But they wouldn’t stop there. They’d turn around and have to “both sides” (because advocating for equality for humans is the same as genocidal death cults, according to many liberals (which is both republicans and democrats)) the shit and start rounding up all 12 of us socialists in the country. So, I have mixed feelings on it. Currently the answer from me is do not do it. If there’s a significant push from actual leftists (no, not the disgusting libs like Pete or another Biden) into power then I’d advocate for immediate destruction completely and utterly of all the Nazi-related groups. No mercy for Nazis. People used to think that was something to say and mean it. Guess those days don’t exist anymore based on how people never want to advocate for what’s necessary to destroy the dealth cults.
I'm far from an expert on American history, but I'm 100% sure that no civil war was caused just by unorganised morons who like to wave their guns.
Seems like people shouldn't underestimate the nutters/fascists.
If they're actually harmless/useless then whatever. If not then treating them like they pose no danger has ramifications I'd personally like to avoid.
If you think your broke untrained fat ass has a shot in hell of taking on even the Uvalde police department, you're fucking delusional LMFAO.
Trump supporters are statistically the stupidest people in the country, they're not anything remotely close to an organized militia. See the losers in Michigan who tried to kidnap the Governor for a laughable example.
You literally don't know who I am or what I do for a living to make this assumption, but ok.
You are correct, but also really fucking dumb to even consider giving them the benefit of the doubt. Always assume your enemy is more competent and trains more than you, so you can have a goal to reach for during your own training. "Train as you fight."
Yeah, hopefully Y'allquaida/Gravy Seals/MAGA Retards continue to all be dumbass losers and justice comes to them, and I know since they are losers in their real life endeavors i hope it continues in their fascist shenanigans. No one wants them to organize and develop a credible threat to our democracy.
Buddy, did you read too many Solider of Fortune old magazines? Spend too much time rereading Turner Diaries?
Take an objective look at the US police state. You’re talking about backwood Missouri or Kentucky or some shit. Why? That’s irrelevant, not that I think your shit holds water there anyway, but Trump would be arrested in one of three places only: NYC, DC, or his place in Mar a laga in FL. Perhaps a courthouse nearby in any of those general locations. Out of all those, FL is the only one with any substantial amount of LOCKED AND LOADED PATRIOTS BROTHER ™️. If the hogs want to try to take on DC or NYC I actually encourage them. Either side who loses I will get to laugh my ass off. But it will obviously be the cops with their infinite budgets not the 55 year old guy who drives his 4wheeler out to hunt deer and has neevr stepped foot in NYC or DC- also that guy sure as shit ain’t going to either of those cities to save some dumbass rich guy. People in general are shittalkers and never walkers. The hogs are the biggest of those types. They cannot even fanthom walking their talk. These are the guys stroking out every time Hunter is briefly mentioned or they see some fake shit about China meanwhile they’re fully cucked to US corporations. They are entirely incapable of doing anything.
But even just focusing on FL since it’s the only relevant hotspot. What are they gonna do? If 20 of these guys showed up, and that’s generous, the FBI will just pull in 100 armed feds. Fuck the FL state police and fuck anything Meatball Ron might consider doing, they’ll just swarm the area with their alpha-hogs and dare the militia dudes to give them a reason to do what they’ve been wanting to do for two decades and just wipe their little asses from this world.
There’s not, never has been and never will be any possibility of any of these weird KKK, neoNazi, whatever else racist shit groups standing against the kings of all that stuff: the police. The police happily protect these types all the time but hogs are hogs and police are the alpha hogs. If those little fatboy hoglets step up to them and try to challenge their authority to do whatever they’re doing we all know how it goes down.
The entire idea is laughable on the surface. Please, use your brain.
I think Jan 6 showed that they will show up.
Your comment brings me false comfort that the Feds and cops are competent and intelligent.
On the feds behalf, you seem to have mistaken malicious intent and negligence for a lack of competence and intelligence. Cops fit the bill, but the feds are not stupid, they have got better shit to deal with.
These obese inbred fuck nuts can spend whatever they want on guns, bows, samurai swords, nunchuks, DIY flame throwers, or whatever else. They've already proven that they are incompetent and incapable of throwing a successful insurrection against the United States, even with minimal resistance.
If these dipshits try to pull another January 6th the hammer will be dropped so hard on their asses we'll need a paint scraper to get them off the street.