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Why lemmy.world should not defederate from beehaw.org. (self.lemmyworld)
submitted 2 years ago by FantasticFox to c/lemmyworld
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What defederating would mean:

  • We won't see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can't respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won't be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won't see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our 'front page').

beehaw.org users already can't see our posts/comments anywhere so it's not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn't really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They might also remove the block again in the future when moderation tools have improved and/or lemmy.world does a better job at vetting users, and then it would work better to have never blocked them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's basically what they said they'd do

[โ€“] certain_people 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Except their perspective of "when moderation tools have improved" is "when our users can use other instances but their users aren't allowed here"

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I don't see any problem with that. They want their own little community.

Then they could have that but still contribute to the wider "threadiverse".

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

This keeps coming up but like... So? If beehaw users are putting good content up on a sh.itjust.works community, and making good replies and stuff, who cares if I can't go do the same on their semiprivate instance? I'm just happy to have the user.