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[–] elbarto777 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The windows analogy is almost there.

It's more like, you pay for windows home edition, which would take up 24gb in your 128gb hard drive. But nope, it's actually taking up 89gb. Why? Because it has all the features of Windows Ultimate edition, all locked away, taking up precious space in a hard drive that you've paid for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most softwares work this way. You download the full thing. Your subscription level dictate what feature you can use.

[–] elbarto777 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe today. That was not always the case. Especially software that attempts ti thwart piracy.

E.g. music packages.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So you're worried about the hard disk space in your car ? Can you even access that as an end-user?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, he's saying that's all the components are included to use this feature adding weight to the car and affecting your fuel (or in this case battery) milage, but you can't use them without paying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What components are adding weight? AFAIK the components used by FSD are already in use by other features.

[–] elbarto777 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not specifically talking about FSD, and if that is the case, then cool.

But when it's shit like heated seats, then that's bullshit. If you ever need to replace your seats, they will make you pay for the expensive model - with that disabled feature.

Anyway. Regardless, I'll never buy a car with disabled features unless I pay a subscription.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m not specifically talking about FSD

But I am.

But when it’s shit like heated seats, then that’s bullshit

I agree, as I said here

[–] elbarto777 1 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you know what an analogy is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but your analogy doesn't make any sense. There is no downside to you because of this feature being in your car in a disabled state.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It’s not my analogy, but it does make sense if you even remotely think about it. The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. Teslas are heavy enough as-is with their giant batteries, I’d rather remove any and all unnecessary weight for the sake of my tire tread life (and battery life). Also depending on exactly what the hardware is, it can be an additional point of failure that could potentially cause things that I do have access to to break. Lastly, it’s fair to assume that the price of the car would be cheaper if Tesla didn’t have to install this hardware into every car even if it will never be used, so you are likely already paying for this in “hidden” costs that are just rolled into the total price of the car before even paying to enable the features.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware.

No it doesn't. As far as I know FSD doesn't require additional hardware. It uses the hardware already in the car for other purposes (like lane assist, emergency braking, etc).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

FSD isn’t the only feature locked behind a paywall.

They lock up everything from heated seats to acceleration speed.

[–] elbarto777 1 points 11 months ago

That was my analogy, not of the person you replied for.

Disabled features also add complexity to your car, which may or may not affect how much you pay for repairs.