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[–] cley_faye 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Running your own software to control the automotive part of a car is probably not legal, since I assume the process of making a car street legal should requires an audit of said system.

Hmm, well, I hope it is the case, anyway.

[–] schroedingershat 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any software that passes whatever local safety standard should be installable (or software that doesn't pass if the car is not being used on public roads).

Otherwise the car is not being sold, it's being rented, and all the advertising that says anything about buying is fraud.

[–] induna_crewneck 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Good luck getting a homebrew OS for tesla cars to pass those tests. I don't even know how that would work. I'd be curious to know what would happen if you would try to register and get a car through the TÜV for example that runs on custom firmware.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The whole internet runs on a homebrew os.

[–] induna_crewneck 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What does that even mean and how is it relevant here? "The internet" isn't a car or piece of hardware.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well-developed software built by professionals to industry standards and capable of doing a very important job effectively. And homebrew. You might be surprised at what sufficiently motivated nerds are capable of.

[–] induna_crewneck 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Im sorry, I still don't know what you're talking about. What about the internet runs on homebrew and how is it related to cars?

[–] Blissingg 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You might not understand what homebrew in a software sense is then full stop. Homebrew in software just means not commercially made/backed.

GNU/Linux and plenty of other open source projects that power your modern life and the internet started the same way.

[–] induna_crewneck 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Homebrew software is unofficial/non-commercial software for systems which were originally set up with proprietary software (like gaming console or in this case car OSs).

[–] Blissingg 1 points 11 months ago

That’s the definition for games consoles specifically, I know you pulled it from wiki :)

Every computer that comes preinstalled with windows also falls under your definition though as does any Mac.

Linux was also developed for or spurned by a system that was proprietary and only for educational purposes MINIX.

[–] schroedingershat 1 points 11 months ago

It's similarly hard to make an airbag or seat belt, but you can still undo the bolt without the manufacturer in another country bricking your car without any considerations of your local laws.