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[–] Weirdfish 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

True, but remember "did not vote" was higher then either Hillary or Trump first time around.

I was apathetic in 2016, I didn't care enough to vote for her, or know enough to vote against Trump.

I voted against Trump on 2020, and now I've seen enough I will vote for Biden in 2024, assuming he is the nominee. Otherwise, it's another vote against Trump.

My point is, there was a real disconnect back in 2016, and a lot of people just couldn't be bothered.

Trumps base has only gotten smaller, but the people who know and want to keep him out has grown. I suspect we will see both significant turn out, and significant voter suppression in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

God, I hope so hard that turnout will be good. I just worry that the more time that passes, the more "most" people will become complacent and forget. I'd certainly like to imagine that between Jan 6 and how extremely climate change has affected people the last couple of years, people are finally figuring out that they can't just twiddle their thumbs and wait for things to blow over. Unfortunately, though, that's something that will be shown with election results.

[–] voidMainVoid -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What is Biden planning to do about the environment?

[–] aesthelete 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Believing that we need to switch courses is a good first step. The other thing is that the policies he managed to get passed are moving geothermal in the right direction. I heard for the first time about ground source heat pumps because of his incentives for their installation.

There's also funding for public transit, charging infrastructure for EVs, sunsetting incandescents, etc. It's not perfect but it's better than some asshole up there saying how the whole thing is a Chinese hoax and chanting drill baby drill.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

...didn't Trump get more votes in 2020 than in 2016? Has his base really gotten smaller?

[–] Jimbob0i0 5 points 11 months ago

Smaller as a percentage of the active electorate. Biden also got more votes than any other candidate before him... but that's not unexpected with a positive population growth.