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[–] derf82 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Disliking tipping is no reason to screw hardworking people over. Tipping is a fact of life, even if you think it’s dumb.

[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it doesn’t have to be if the employers pay how they should

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure but until they do a lot of those people need tips to get by and it's far from as easy as "just get a different job"

Source: used to be one such person

[–] Iamdanno 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With unemployment numbers so low right now, this is actually the time to "just get another job". In the USA, at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Have you tried?

What other job do you get when your experience is tipped work? Or do you go to school to take on debt that will set you back for a long time because the education system is shot too.

[–] TheBat -4 points 1 year ago

Until they do? When is that going to be? When US government makes tipping illegal?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really doesn't have to be a "fact of life", and it isn't in many places, such as Australia and England -- nations with very similar degrees of economic prosperity, and very similar cultures, to the USA.

[–] derf82 6 points 1 year ago

People have tried and failed. But my point is, until that time you have to tip. I don’t care for people that don’t tip while arguing they are doing their server a favor. It is a disingenuous attempt to be cheap. A server’s paycheck should not be held hostage to a a war on tipping culture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't see them saying they don't tip, but arguing against the system in place. Which are two separate things.

[–] PunnyName 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or, employers could pay their workers better.

Novel thought, right?

[–] derf82 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And you think not tipping your server today, before they get those wages, will make that happen?

Sorry, Mr. Pink. Being an asshole to your server does not make you somehow pro-worker.

[–] PunnyName 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. By not showing up at all.

[–] assassin_aragorn 0 points 1 year ago

This is a fairly good bellwether to see who's progressive and who's a champagne socialist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm always torn on this. I want to tip to help someone earn a living, but if enough of us stopped tipping employees would leave unless they were paid more. It does feel like adding suffering to the wrong people, but if out created change it would be nice eventually

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A better solution is to flat out not patronize businesses that do tips

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There are all manner of grocery stores that sell that