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[–] TheBananaKing 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Real libertarians would stand there with their hands in their pockets watching a toddler drown in a duck pond because the parents have no right to demand their labour.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you're describing is something called "Duty to Rescue". It has serious implications if enacted, and should not be taken lightly.

[–] TheBananaKing 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hey look, I was bang on the money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For your reference, here is a Wikipedia article on Good Samaritan Law. This graphic also provides some important context (it is contained within that Wikipedia article, but it is a useful graphic, so I explicitly linked it).

[–] TheBananaKing 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no please, don't let me get in the way of you confirming the stereotype. Say more words by all means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What stereotype do you believe that I am confirming?

[–] TheBananaKing 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one at the top of this comment chain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never stated that it is un-libertarian to have duty-to-rescue laws. To be clear, I, personally, am of the belief that one should not be forced to come to the aid of another; however, I do support good samaritan protections. This being said, I would like to point out that your original argument is founded upon an assumption.

[–] TheBananaKing 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I'm stating that libertarians are selfish assholes who would watch a toddler drown before allowing any sense of obligation within a mile of their massive entitlement, and be proud of themselves for doing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What a libertarian would actually say is that it is an individual's right to choose whether or not to come to someone's aid. What if coming to the aid of another requires the endangerment of your own life, or the destruction of your own property? Should one be compelled by force to risk their own life, or their own property for the sake of another? The moral answer would be yes one should come to the aid of another, no matter the personal risk, but the actual question at hand is should one be compelled by law to do so -- duty to rescue does compell you by force to come to the aid of another. Not all libertarians are of the same mentality as you describe in your comment.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

is this satire or...?
because i actually noticed a few specific people (namely us-citizens) associating libertarianism with uncontrolled market instead of the humanitarian background of the enlightenment

[–] TheBananaKing 0 points 1 year ago

The entire concept is "I don't have to and you can't make me!".

That's it, that's all; a complete renunciation of social obligation. Nobody is required to do anything for anybody else, and the very idea is offensive.

Regulation is tyranny, taxation is theft, fuck you, pay me.

Your baby is starving to death in the street? Better hope someone decides to randomly donate to a charity or something, because I don't have to give a shit about anyone in the world but myself. But its okay, I'm a good person because I'm not touching you!

At least toddlers grow out of it.

Randroid scum the lot of them; a bunch of edgelord ex-teenage anarchists who realised they like money and want laws to protect it, without any of that inconvenient and expensive functioning-society stuff getting in the way of their selfishness.