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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Discrimination is the wrong word. Technology has no morals or sense of justice. It is bias in the data that developers should have accounted for.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It's totally accurate though. It's like the definition of systemic racism really. Think about housing or financial policy that disproportionately fails for minorities. They aren't some Klan manifesto. Instead they just include banal qualifications and exemptions that end up at the same result.

[–] slumberlust 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems shortsighted. You are basically asking people to police their own biases. That's a tall ask for something no one can claim immunity from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am asking a group of scientists who should be very well-versed in statistics and weights, you know, one of the biggest components in a machine learning model, to account for how biased their data is when engineering their model.

It's really not a hard ask.

[–] Cortell 1 points 1 year ago

So in other words technology is just as biased as the people who designed it

[–] Cortell 7 points 1 year ago

Ask the people who create the data sets that machine learning models train on how they feel about racism and get back to us

[–] Smokeless7048 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can be an imported bias/descrimination. I still think that words fair.

Do you have a more accurate word?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I already said it: bias. It's a common problem with LLMs and other machine learning models that model engineers need to watch out for.

[–] HardlightCereal -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need to learn some critical race theory. Racist systems turn innocent intentions into racist actions. If a PhD student trains an AI model on only white people because the university only has white students, then that AI model is going to fail black people because black people were already failed by university admissions. Innocent intention plus racist system equals racist action.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Even CRT would call this "racial bias", which is exactly what this is.