THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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It is massively important that arrests are a matter of public record. Without that, it's perfectly legal to disappear you, for any reason, at any time, and noone would ever know.
But the US government has done that anyway. During the Seattle black lives matter protests federal law enforcement was just randomly picking up anyone that looked suspicious.
So you think that your name and mugshot should be published everywhere whenever you're arrested, because otherwise you'll be disappeared...? Is this also some US-specific problem? Court records are public information here, but arrests aren't.
Especially when you know the police can be corrupt, why do you want your public image to be ruined before you've even been judged by a jury of your peers?
Fun fact, we've had exactly that happen in history. Going right back to the British. There's a reason we set the standard. Then there are reasons we kept it. The latest I'm aware of is Homan Square Chicago.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homan_Square_facility
It has happened in recent history.
Americans are stupid enough to believe the myth the ussr disappeared people through arrests, and believe the same happened in the UK before the US declared independence.
They literally think if you can't get a random person's personal information at all times they must have been disappeared by an evil globalist entity.
Chicago literally had black sites where poor people and black people were literally disappeared. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homan_Square_facility
Weird how ruining people's lives didn't stop that from happening.
Or, you know, 1970s Argentina
edit: ok, at least one fan of Operation Condor