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What's the underrated quote that will stick with you for life? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 1 day ago by needthosepylons to c/[email protected]

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Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

Mine would be :

"Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

How about you?

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[–] Allonzee 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"Who I am is where I stand.

Where I stand is where I fall."

-Steven Moffat, Doctor Who

I have a lot of darkness in my head due to my upbringing. I'll never get it out. That doesn't stop me from being a good man, because who you are and what you'll be remembered as isn't your internal struggle, its what you chose to stand for in practice.

[–] MajorasMaskForever 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Props to you for actually attributing the quote to the writer and not the character. It's a pet peeve of mine when people take profound sounding quotes and attribute it to a fictional character that never existed, never had real thoughts or opinions of their own

[–] LovableSidekick 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I agree it's good to credit a writer, but the attribution should also include the character so the quote has context. For example, I would want there to be a distinction between a comment I made in real life and a line I wrote for a psychotic character to say.

[–] MajorasMaskForever 1 points 36 minutes ago

I hadn't thought of that before, and I can think of several characters who've said things I doubt the writers would want attributed to them. I just want to see quotes from fiction being clearly labeled as such, and not using the grandiose of a character's title to add weight to the quote.

For example when I see people quote Admiral William Adama on how when the military becomes the police, the people become the enemy of the state. That was Ron Moore writing a character for a show set in a post apocalyptic universe where the only survivors are hanging out on military ships, not a real world seasoned officer's opinion. Is it an interesting point worth discussing? Sure, but I'm not putting it in the same category of 5-Star General Dwight Eisenhower's warnings about the military industrial complex

[–] Allonzee 3 points 4 hours ago

Thank you! I try to, even though at the end of the day the best you can do is the show runner that signed off on it, as you'll never really know who invented it in the writer's room.