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[–] yesman 79 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Tomatoes, peppers, and potatoes are native to the Americas. That means that before Transatlantic trade, there were no hot peppers in China, no potatoes in Ireland, and not tomatoes in Italy.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine many common Indian dishes without tomatoes or chilis. How about the popular trope of a Native American on horseback? Horses went extinct in the US many thousands of years before Europeans arrived with a different kind. It's amazing how quickly the cultural exchange happened so long ago.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Tangential fact: syphillis originated in the Americas, likely from llamas. It's the only instance of a transmittable disease to be imported to the old world.

This also makes me a bit annoyed at the show 'Apothecary Diaries" as it depicts syphillis existing in China in the 700AD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago

I thought Romans had syphilis and that's why they were bald

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Alright, everyone, who banged tina‽

[–] Psaldorn 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's why if you ask someone in Bologna how much tomato to add to your Bolognese they will chase you out of town with a kitchen knife.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Which is weird, considering the dish was only invented in the 19th century, so tomatoes were absolutely available.

Italian cuisine in general has way less tradition that people think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's documented serving. You don't seriously believe that a slow stew on the basis of meat, wine and misofritto only appeared in the 19th century?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

No, but at what point would you start calling it bolognese then? It's every meat/wine stew from Bologna bolognese?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

When do you call something a continent? Just vibes, I guess. All I am saying is that the dish has a much longer history than 200 years.

[–] Maggoty 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What did they use instead?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tomaytos.

[–] Maggoty 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh hey is that like the Irish stew with Potaytoes instead of Potahtoes?

[–] Psaldorn 2 points 1 day ago

Just gotta let the meats dissolve