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Americans, take note, Zelenskyy is a man who will debase himself for the good of his country. Karma tends to be a huge asshole when it comes to stuff like this. (lemmy.world)

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[–] AmazingAwesomator 148 points 2 days ago (3 children)

american here.

watching the video of trump and vance yelling at an ally in need of help because he said "thank you" at the wrong time is insulting. dear president zelensky: i am so sorry you have to interact with that donut and his side of coffee. you, sir, are a classy fellow who deserves to be respected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

It's worse. He said "don't tell us what to feel" when it's a mother fucking figure of fucking speech and he was trying to explain (yes EXPLAIN because they are like children not understanding that they are under obligation to defend the baltics) that they will be affected soon enough if they don't help... Meanwhile he was being extorted... And they just asked Trump what historic figure he would say he was..... I'm so sad because it will stop being funny when the killings begin, and it's clear none of the sycophants have any resemblance of humanity left, it's just a raw psychosis centered around a pretty senile and wholly ignorant narcissist

[–] grue 137 points 2 days ago (4 children)

trump and vance yelling at an ally in need of help because he said "thank you" at the wrong time

That isn't what they were doing at all.

They were yelling at an enemy in hopes of provoking him, in order to manufacture a justification for their own treachery.

As Americans, we need to understand that Trump is unilaterally forcing the US to switch sides -- to betray NATO and join Russia and North Korea as pariah dictatorships -- and we need to decide what we're going to do about it.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 34 points 2 days ago

Exactly. They were hoping that Zelenskyy wouldn’t just turn the other cheek. Because if Zelenskyy got agitated, they would use it as justification for cutting all ties.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, I think it goes deeper than that. They have no loyalty to America, they have loyalty to their ideology. This is why they sympathise with the AfD, Brexit and the rest. They seek control only to enrich themselves. Russia isn't an ally, it's an aspiration

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Here's the kicker, Russia as it stands today, is an all American creation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_%28economics%29

In post-Soviet Russia and other post-Communist states, neoliberal reforms based on the Washington Consensus resulted in a surge in excess mortality and decreasing life expectancy, along with rising economic inequality, corruption, and poverty. Isabella Weber of the University of Massachusetts said: "As a result of shock therapy, Russia experienced a rise in mortality beyond that of any previous peacetime experiences of an industrialized country.": 2 The Gini ratio increased by an average of 9 points for all post-Communist states. The average post-Communist state had returned to 1989 levels of per-capita GDP by 2005, although some are still far behind that. In Russia, the average real income for 99 percent of people was lower in 2015 than in 1991.: 2 According to William Easterly, successful market economies rest on a framework of law, regulation, and established practice, which cannot be instantaneously created in a society that was formerly authoritarian, heavily centralised, and subject to state ownership of assets.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As a Canadian, we might just build a border wall.... Mainly to keep the crazy out of our country.

[–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen 7 points 2 days ago

And make the US pay for it. But please build it after I illegally cross.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Can we block Faux news at that border wall too?

Please??

[–] Gammelfisch 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Add a wide ass minefield.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Good idea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Take up arms.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I couldn't even make it through a minute without rage building up and had to turn off the video. That he could sit there and put up with that ridiculous circus without getting up and leaving or punching them in the face is amazing. I could not do that. I'm pissed off again writing this and being reminded of the short video I watched.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

If you can give it another look it’s worth it to just see how adept and tough Zelenskyy is, they couldn’t shake him and get him to make a real error. They come out looking terrible and most folks will like Zelenskyy more than ever.

[–] margaritox 12 points 2 days ago

I couldn’t watch that shit either. Gotta admit, I’m a little relieved that it is the general consensus that they were being major dicks.