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Firefox terms up service (it got way worse) (www.mozilla.org)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

Also Firefox now has a Acceptable use policy https://www.mozilla.org/about/legal/acceptable-use/

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Get ready for ads as well

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e#commitcomment-153095625

They removed this:


            {

                "@type": "Question",

                "name": "Does Firefox sell your personal data?",

                "acceptedAnswer": {

                    "@type": "Answer",

                    "text": "Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That’s a promise. "

                }

            },

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if the "never will" part is legally binding. Most companies bend over backwards to avoid making future-looking guarantees like that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Nah. Such permanent guarantees are not legally enforceable, if a company really cares about it they'll structure themselves in such a way as to make it very hard to change by having veto voices in their ownership structure who are for such things and will not allow a change, by writing language that requires some high majority of agreement of these owners that's hard to come by to change such conditions.

At best you get it in a contract when you use the software but guess what, that contract can and is overwritten as soon as you use a new version of the software with a new contract, feel free to use the old one full of one-click machine compromise vulnerabilities forever if you'd like but in reality you have no choice but to update and accept the new contract.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Firefox already has ads. (Though you can turn them off.) As does its default search engine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Yup. I just got one for some new Firefox feature. And Pocket has been a thing for a while, which is basically an ad engine.

I still use Firefox because I can easily disable that nonsense. I'm mostly here for engine diversity, so once a reasonable competitor exists (LadyBird? Servo?), I'll bail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

What's the best fork that's available in apt?

[–] breakingcups 11 points 23 hours ago

Wow, some promise!