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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] SleepyPie 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Didn’t watch the video but isn’t it just authoritarianism in general?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

"Didn't watch the video" seems to be a popular sentiment, considering the content of some of these replies.

Too many people trying to answer the question of the title, instead of actually watching the video and seeing what he has to say about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

What he has to say about it is bullshit, because he's reframing totalitarianism as global oligarchy (which is a little too close for comfort to "the globalists") and ending on the libertarian fever idea that capitalism of all things will destroy oligarchy.

[–] Madrigal 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. Orwell favoured democratic socialism himself.

The book attacked authoritarian socialism (“IngSoc” being a bit of a clue) to some degree but it didn’t really focus on the socialist elements - it was all about methods of control, which could be employed under any economic system.

Animal Farm was a much more direct attack on Stalinism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, the book came out on the heels of WW2 wrapping up, and the Nazis literally called themselves "National Socialists," so I'm not sure we're meant to take "IngSoc" at face value.

It's been literal decades so I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure he even addresses this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

No, you can take IngSoc at face value, Orwell was strongly in favor of democratic socialism but as much opposed to Stalinism and authoritarianism in general. He should absolutely be viewed as an anti-fascist and anti-authoritarian socialist with strong bonds to anarchy. He claimed that since his time in spain he had become a socialist, but the USSR had abandoned socialism and turned to totalitarianism.